And I feel powerless to stop them. Does anyone else feel like this?
Yes, you are not alone
My friends, too. And I’m not afraid to call them friends. We call dogs and cats friends but we can’t call other animals friends? I spend hours every week with them at the sanctuary. They’re my friends, period.
I agree with the sentiment of course, but also this is why people make fun of vegans.
Why exactly? Don’t they have empathy for animals?
Not the message, the phrasing.
As for the empathy, most people live in active denial to be able to eat industrial meat. There is a reason the meat industry is nicely tucked away from public eyes wherever possible.
I appreciate what you mean. I wonder what it is about the phrasing. Calling them friends is too much? It’s a term of respect, that’s all. I care about my friends, and I care about animals. Friends not food.
I agree people are in denial about what they consume and what they do, and it’s so sad. And I think you meant this anyway. But just saying, I think this can apply all animal products, not just meat. Which is important since I think dairy and eggs are the most cruel industries of them all.
I think the strong emotional appeal is what makes it off putting because people feel pushed into an opinion based on feelings. It’s a bit like the equivalent of anti abortion nuts screaming THINK OF THE CHILDREN and holding up signs of bloody fetuses.
I can’t agree with this.
People pretty much only make decisions based on emotions. This is even pretty well established as the case in modern jurisprudence; judges work backwards based on their emotional presuppositions.
People don’t like these sorts of comments, because they don’t want to be confronted with the impacts of their practices, and experience the uncomfortable feeling of cognitive dissonance.
While I might use other language for carnists, they would not be happy with vegan arguments and discourse unless it is completely supportive of their position or otherwise silent. I don’t see anything wrong with OP posting this sort of language in a vegan forum to vent.
Unless you know those pigs personally, calling them friends is a bit much. The phrasing makes it seem as if somone entered your petting zoo and started slaughtering your animals.
I understand your message, but the hyperbole just damages it and makes other people think you’re a bit off.
Same. It causes so much agony to think about, but I keep fighting for them even as powerless I feel. We owe it to them to try our best
