• P1r4nha@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    How else would you account for it? Am I responsible for 0.001% of Amazon’s CO2 emissions because I order sometimes from them?

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        1 year ago

        Poor Besos cannot decide what and how he delivers. He just needs to deliver to anybody who posts an order on the website someone put up on the internet. Kinda like Santa?

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          He can decide, and his middle managers can decide, and you can also decide by choosing to shop from somewhere else.

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            How do I know which shop is the best? I don’t. Neoliberal fantasies only work with an informed consumer, just like democracies only work with educated voters.

            That’s why you can’t make consumers responsible for the emissions the suppliers emit.

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        I don’t really have knowledge nor control over how green Amazon’s delivery is. If you shift responsibility to a party that cannot make well-informed decisions, you kind of end up with the mess we currently have, no?

        The whole idea of money not having a memory is a huge scheme of capitalists to get out of any kind of responsibility.

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          Amazon has the best logistics infrastructure of any company in the world. It is literally the most efficient system of moving goods ever known to mankind.

          You are responsible for the carbon footprint of things you purchase, yes. This is why things like carbon taxes with dividends are such good ideas.

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              Well, you’re not, but your parents are.

              Whoever actually buys the thing is.

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                wrong. the pollution from production is the fault of the producers. they can choose to do otherwise.

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                  Gotta love commie logic lol

                  Have fun on Thanksgiving break.

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                    “commie logic” is attributing culpability to the people who do things. i wonder what kind of logic wouldn’t make people responsible for their own actions?

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                    I work at a corporation. We don’t do environmentally the right thing because leadership doesn’t care and operation needs to be cheap. Whenever I suggest something it falls on deaf ears.

                    It’s very obvious who can decide to change something in a company.

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          You are the person to set in motion the apparatus necessary to accomplish the task that you wanted to be accomplished.

          Yes you live in this late stage capitalist hellscape with the rest of us, but that doesn’t absolve you from being critical and making the best decisions in it.

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            The point is that the decision can’t be good because no company discloses the environmental impact of a single product. So even if I had choices, I can only choose based on price. My only hope is that efficient logistics are also cheaper and better for the environment.