• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

      i can’t click your paywalled link

      here’s what the UN’s FAO says

      oil is 17.2%. since a soybean is only about 20% oil to begin with, you need to crush 85% of all soybeans to get that much oil. do you see how the vast majority of what is fed to animals is called “soy meal” or “soy cake”? that’s the industrial waste from processing soybeans to oil.

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        Its statista, they limit traffic. Try a different browser.

        Btw funny you link OWID, you should read their article. It doesn’t mention the feed as a side product of oil production, and I’m having trouble finding your quote.

        Even if its 100% true and just not mentioned in any articles on the matter, then I guess large scale veganism still only removes loads of industrial processes/co2 production, unspeakable animal abuse and insane amounts - and i mean ludicrous amounts - of wasted drinking water.

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          I guess large scale veganism still only removes loads of industrial processes/co2 production, unspeakable animal abuse and insane amounts - and i mean ludicrous amounts - of wasted drinking water.

          that has never happened.

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              1 year ago

              you can make any excuse you want. the fact is that being vegan has not helped the environment at all.

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                You seem to have a very tough time matching what people say/write and what you feel like they mean with it.

                Let me rephrase the original claim so you may understand what the actual topic is you’re so furiously debating: Reducing global meat production would be a net benefit to the planet and every being living on it in the long term.

                Reducing demand for said production at a large scale WOULD (this is in conjunctive because it’s still a small movement so IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET - we all know that) over time force said production to scale down.

                Literally no human i have ever interacted with before you thought not buying a steak for a few months instantly fixes the world. We are painfully aware. Which is why we chose not to participate in that insane bullshit which causes all kinds of issues and harm anymore.

                Thank you for your time and energy, this has been awfully unproductive.

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                  Reducing global meat production would be a net benefit to the planet and every being living on it in the long term.

                  that’s true. what you said before was not.

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                  Literally no human i have ever interacted with before you thought not buying a steak for a few months instantly fixes the world.

                  i never said that.

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                  Reducing demand for said production at a large scale WOULD (this is in conjunctive because it’s still a small movement so IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET - we all know that) over time force said production to scale down.

                  that’s not causal.