Hamas did attack a festival and fought people they encountered there (police and army). Hamas did kill some Israeli civilians. But Hamas being an imperfect resistance group is enough for liberals to solely focus on condemning Hamas and showing support for an apartheidsregime that has been committing genocide for decades now.
If they were alive during the time in which the native Americans fought back, they would’ve sided with the colonists. They would have sided with apartheid South Africa. They would cheer on the destruction of Vietnam. Because they can’t think further than ‘killing is inherently bad, and my government says to hate you’.
If they were alive during the time in which the native Americans fought back, they would’ve sided with the colonists.
They would have been the colonists. They still are.
Good point lol
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It was so close that you could hear the music from within Gaza.
This interview of Norman Finkelstein by Chris Hedges is thorough. He talks at length about grappling with the moral implications of the Al Aqsa Flood operation, including from his position as the child of two Holocaust survivors. He draws parallels with Nat Turner and John Brown and responses by William Lloyd Garrison and C. L. R. James.
Israel’s long war on Gaza w/Norman Finkelstein | The Chris Hedges Report 34:48 is where they talk about the music festival in particular.
Not only that, but they tried to frame it as a “peace” festival.
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I tried to aggregate the sources I could find at the time. I haven’t seen much beyond those, but I haven’t looked deeply.
What I think:
- The festival couldn’t have been an actual target, it was moved 2 days before.
- Iof Gaza Division was stationed very close by, and was arguably the main target of the operation.
- The security guards and tank are pretty likely to have caught civilians in the crossfire.
- There was an article shared recently that seemed to point towards iof helicopters shooting into running crowds at the same time.
At least half of the casualties are also security personnel per a list of names released by the Israeli government. The number has also since been revised down to 1200 from 1400.
a lot of the western news outlets put out a story immediately after
Here’s a video: https://youtu.be/uFYc1PeOFCA?si=vKIFmXBmlhd0zm8S
0 people are shot by Hamas in this video
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Another one: https://youtu.be/jnlW7tWykyA?si=q-4Itl18F-DmP_R_
0 people are shot by Hamas in this video
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This video does show security guards shooting from a crowd of civilians. Human shields.
I didn’t see anyone shot by Hamas.
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Sorry nobody liked your YouTube short of videos already shared in the rest of the thread.