Honestly I don’t know what’s going on in the USA. You’re so proud of your “democracy and freedom” yet one of your 2 political parties is able to effectively dismantle the entire thing in less than a decade. You’re now one election away from being a christofascist state.

…and yet you’re all just going to work tomorrow. You’re all doing pretty much nothing except “make sure you vote in 2024.” So I guess every 4 years you’re going to be one election away from a literal Nazi takeover?

I don’t know. Riot or something. I have no idea how you’re all coping so hard.

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    This is not a recent occurrence which just sprung up from the blue out of nowhere. It’s been building sine the end of the Civil War. This is the original sin of Slavery which continues to damage the nation upon which it was built, root and branch. Institutionalized racism, misogyny, homophobia, and white Christian separatism as party platform. No matter how “conservative” Republicans claimed to be, The Southern Strategy was the core value and singular driving force for the past 60 years. MAGA isn’t a symptom, it’s result. These are " The South Will Rise Again" assholes, rising, once again.

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      Not to be contrarian, but the original sin of the US is the genocide of the indigenous populations.

      And it’s THE thing that few people want to confront.

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        Well, to be contrarian, I’d argue that indigenous genocide was the original sin of the colonists, English, French, and Spanish, but not of the United States, who of course continued and expanded the pain and death upon the indigenous populations, but again, in this citizens opinion is Slavery, which not only caused so much pain, suffering and death it visited upon the Africans stolen from their homes, and their descendants, forced to work until they fell down dead, but was the root cause of the united states only civil war to date, yet still, rightfully, informs the American political sphere, whose civil right successes the white supremacists continue to fight so hard against, and why were seeing the continuation of the same racist policies seeking to dismantle the entire democratic experiment at it’s core

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          I don’t know how you can separate the idea of colonialism from the formation of the US. Seems arbitrary and without any philosophical basis.

          As it stands currently, black Americans have better standards of living, in almost all developmental indices, than native Americans. So by any scientific inquiry, native Americans have had it and still have it much harder than black Americans.

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            they sure do, but that isn’t what’s driving the Republican attempt to destroy egalitarian, secular, representative Democracy, which is what the original post, as well as my comment, was about.

            you can try to shoehorn it in, as an aside, but you were trying to make a point countering mine about American original sin, in relation to today’s political dysfunction, and I said, and still say it’s Slavery

            party on garth

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              Understood.

              I’m simply trying to highlight that what happened to the native Americans is not simply “an aside,” or a footnote in history but that it should take a sharp focus to what the US is or has been. This isn’t about competing special interest group atrocities, but a fundamental question that is at the core of representative democracy. Too often liberal democracy is simply another way to exploit others, and disallow “other” groups from participating.

              From a native perspective, living on a reservation in the US currently, it wouldn’t matter much if it was run by republicans or democrats, as they both simply ignore treaties and obligations. From your perspective, it’s a dire existential crises, but to those who have been swept aside both in the past and the present, it doesn’t matter much at all.

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          ^This guy fully supports genocide. It just needs to be the “right” genocide. From 50 minutes before this:

          They’ve spent the last 18 years making into a terrorist Disneyland with a dozen Islamofascist terrorist organizations with the stated goal of killing Jews and destroying the state of Israel, they’ve fired hundreds of thousands of missiles into Israel indiscriminately targeting civilians, and launched countless cross borders attacks against Jewish civilians, including one that caused the largest loss of Jewish life in any single day, anywhere, since the Holocaust on October 7th.
          They were given Gaza to live in freedom and self determination, they used it to kill Jews. They were warned. They chose to ignore the warnings.

          Love it when you “give” someone their own land. Don’t let racist fascists hide. Fediverse support is community support.