When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I’ll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.
I have been having major issues where I’ve basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can’t get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It’s to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you’re done.
Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world’s most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who’s already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?
Yep I’m a reddit refugee
I was permabanned for saying “bad bot” to a nazi apologist
Yet when an intimate video of me was being shared without my permission, they apparently couldn’t do anything because it breached no rules
I got banned for saying a mod was on a power trip. I was permanently banned with no way to appeal. Been here ever since. Haven’t been back. My wife showed me a reddit thread the other day about a serious topic and every single comment was a meta joke about nothing. I expected to see serious answers like the old days but it was just comment after comment of people trying to be the next broken arms or coconut fucker. I’m all for funny shit but it was all just cringe and my axe bullshit. That place is just awful.
It has devolved
I’m annoyed only because I had quite a number of genuine fans of my content, and reddit was kinda special to me because I’m now engaged to my biggest fan
That’s like better than 99% of all bullshit on the Internet. That’s such a cool thing. Reddit isn’t (wasn’t) all bad, but it became the Nickelback of websites. It used to be such a powerful tool for people but now it’s… Just… Whatever it is.
My mom and step dad met on AOL in 1997 on a game called slingo lol. My half brother just turned 22 and they’re still together. My mom lived in Texas and my stepdad lived in England at the time. There’s always a good side to every thing online but it’s def not the average user experience
Oh, we’re half a world apart
We see each other as often as we can, we’re working on the visa to get her to Australia
It’s crazy how things happen
That’s awesome! If it worked for my mom and stepdad it can work for you two. I wish you the best, regardless of how you found each other. All that matters is you did.
PS - Reddit sucks regardless lol
Good luck, friend! Oi!
Thanks!
We’re both older, we’ve been around, gone through some bullshit
She’s an amazing woman, and I’m grateful every day to have her in my life
She’s my best friend first and foremost, and so beautiful that the brightness of the sun pales in comparison
I married my best friend. It’s the best. Good luck to you.
I get the coconut ficker reference, what’s the broken arms?
That video wouldnt have had anything to do with fisting, now would it have?
/s
Nah, just me naked, by myself
I wasn’t even having a wank in that one for a change
Was fisting involved? I think I saw that.
I post plenty of fisting, but that’s not the video in this case
Username checks out
I don’t believe in false advertising
My pet theory is that Reddit is trying the battleship steel approach. Let me explain: Battleships sunk before the end of WWII are special, in that their steel has never been exposed to the radiation from nuclear blasts. That is important in a series of applications, so there is a market for that kind of steel, and obviously it’s a very limited resource.
Reddit has one of the biggest collections of purely human-generated text that is not domain-specific. That is an incredibly valuable resource, especially now that we know that LLMs hallucinate worse if they are fed LLM-generated content.
I am thinking Reddit is planning to sell that text for the long haul, until changes in language and technology make the content irrelevant. What actually happens on the platform is not important anymore, as long as it doesn’t cause the ire of the powerful.
In fact, at this point, Reddit has a vested incentive in making the Internet worse, which means banning real humans from Reddit, too. Current Reddit content is not valuable, because of course it contains lots of bot generation, so making it visibly worse is a quick way to make the old content more valuable.
Basically, the company plans on getting rich on the backs of yesterday’s you and I.
I just stopped using Reddit after they broke all the good mobile apps. But your comment makes me think that I should log on and run one of those scripts to overwrite my old comments with garbage.
I used this one a couple years ago to poison my comments. Ran it a couple times for good measure.
Good luck finding one that works. I ended up spending weeks deleting every one of my comments that I could find by hand. I couldn’t even go back more than two years or so, but I did the best I could.
i actually tried to post some helpful well thought out SME areas in between my shitposting, i did not want to let reddit have any sort of profit off of it no matter how small so i deleted everything. Took about 20 minutes to set up, then ran on its own for an afternoon
i had no issues deleting comments with this https://github.com/Jelly-Pudding/ereddicator?tab=readme-ov-file#instructions-for-windows-users
thread where some others were discussed https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/145x94v/comment/lokzbwv/
Thank you! I’ll give those a try and see if they can find the stuff I missed.
The text is public anyone can scrape it. They’ve already used all Reddit’s text in training gpt4.
take my gold
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Why is this surprising?
There is a life cycle to social media.
Reddit is approaching Myspace levels of out-of-touch. But that’s to be expected. Reddit sold out and went public corporation. That means everything that they do is 100% centered around making profit for shareholders. A board of rich assholes listen to the same tech assholes that killed off every single other media platform in existence. Why? To make a buck. To squeeze the penny so hard, at the expense of content, users, posts, subreddits, that the penny squeezes out an extra $0.0000001.
Content is ruined, but who cares? Another nerd will come along and make another one. Businessmen don’t care about the content of a bunch of randos. They care about gutting everything and selling pieces of it off for as much as possible, then eventually selling it off to a control-freak billionaire.
So I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately Reddit hasn’t reached Myspace levels of dead yet. It’s still the 9th most visited website in the whole world, and I unfortunately don’t think that’s gonna change anytime soon
If anything, it’s growing and taking on a new audience. Reddit was semi-niche in the years before, and is now becoming mainstream.
I was banned for talking bad about the current administration, I then deleted my account. Ridiculous stuff.
I toasted mine too. Honestly though, just one day over here has been seemingly more normal than what’s happening on Reddit.
Been here over a year, and yeah this is the place to be now. I love that if I disagree with how an admin runs their instance then I can just fuck off to an entirely different server, or even start my own.
I don’t think greedy pig boy cares, he got his money.
This is a bit funny… Reddit wiped any critical thinking from there few years back and the normies were fine… Then they came for the normies and there is nobody left lol
Or some such thing.
Anyways reddit is not a place for discussion anymore, reddit is where the stupid get their programming
Same way fox news does with “conservative” boomer
Fedi4lyf
I had my account of 12 years permabanned a few days ago. Never had an issue ever before the other day.
Wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary.
Reddit wants each sub to be an echo chamber of repeated comments, they basically want to be 2013 Imgur.
Viewing the post and scrolling is the level of engagement that matters to them. That alone generates revenue. Comments better fall in line
At least that’s my two cents. I’m a Reddit Renegade not an admin
Yeah they dont care about account age, can keep trying appeals but i never got a human response, just told that i tried to evade a subreddit ban and thats a permanent ban lol, I wish I was actually evading a ban on purpose, id feel better about the ban lol, its too much of a hassle to set up a new account and figure out how to use it on my phone without them tracking me somehow
I didn’t even try to appeal. I just nuked the account and came over here. If every comment needs to be a delusional sunshine and rainbows comment then I’m out.
Evading a ban is their version of resisting arrest lol. Fragile egos over there.
Yeah it’s crazy how there is absolutely zero nuance in how they dish out bans. There are no warnings, no second chances, if you break any rule, no matter how big or small, they all carry the same exact punishment and that is an immediate and permanent ban for the rest of your life
Yeah but its never been about the ppl running the site, its the community that themselves are unaware til it happens to them that I miss lol, only reason I tried appealing to their egos
protip: ‘ban evasion’ is an easy generic category as no one outside of reddit admins can verify it
2 years ago I set up an account from my brand new work laptop with a fresh OS install on a network I’ve never used for reddit, and likely no one has ever used for reddit as it is specifically for a cluster of IoT devices in Martinique.
‘Punching nazis is okay’ got be banned for ban evasion within days of account creation
Same here. 12 years and over a quarter million karma. Im not gonna say I was single handedly supporting the site or anything, but how many high karma long term users can they delete before the site is just pure garbage?
I love Lemmy and Im honestly glad I got permabanned from reddit over nothing. Being here reminds me of the early days of my time on Reddit, but a bit more diverse than that version of Reddit ever was. Even though there is still a pretty heavy white/young/tech skew here as there was back in the day. It doesnt feel like that is the only demographic that is here
I know exactly what you mean. I never cared about my karma BUT old timer accounts with a lot of karma (I think I only had like 180k) shows that they’re active. Don’t you want activity?
How many of the people here are from the earlier Reddit era? Maybe that’s why it’s got a different vibe. Reddit’s actually banning the people that have conversations and create content with opinions and arguments. Constructive or not.
I know personally, I feel like a post is engaging when I go in and there are Zero comments. /s
Anyway, fuck you Spez.
What happens to everyone who’s been silenced on that platform is hopefully they contribute to other social media that aren’t blatantly pro-fash
the overmoderation not by humans is everywhere, I have to watch what I say on tiktok now, things that I thought arent even bad get misinterpreted and not appelaed occasionally and the strikes pile up, while some things that I prob shouldnt have said and should be taken down get appealed and put back up lol
Diggs relaunch is feeling like it has potential to be the same as reddit but like a temporary reset of the shitty things, I like that they have the apollo dev for the app
Tbh I think I’m done with all large, commercial social medias. I’d rather invest my time here, on the fedi, where it’s all about us.
Reddit’s started it’s death spiral. It’s all downhill from here. Try starting communities here that don’t exist yet and crosspost stuff
Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence
Not only that but if you use Reddit Enhancement Suite you can only view 100 posts before they all start duplicating. It’s enough to make people like me leave the site.
They’re going to try to push bot traffic, while keeping actual user numbers hidden. Then dump the stock before saying they banned all their users or someone leaks it. Personally I would like an investigative journalist look into their ban system and do a hit piece.
The site 15 years ago was great, yes there was trolling, you could call people a asshat, but it was still a good site. Now none of that stuff flies, no joking alowed, it’s like msn comments section. They killed what made reddit great and it was never at the level of 4 chan incels. In fact there quite a few social causes that did some good, all that’s gone. It’s just regurgitated shit.
It’s no small amount of people who have been permabanned and it’s happening more and more. Some of the oldest accounts are just gone. I gave up even trying to get around it.
I had my first account for a decade. My next two didn’t last a year. I don’t think I’ll going back. Lemmy doesn’t have niche communities really quite yet but for tech news it’s arrived
I left and deleted my account. My content _should _ have been deleted, and not useable for AI training, but who knows.
Reddit considers the content of your posts theirs, not yours. They did not delete your posts. Even though that violates the GDPR. You should have used a bot to edit/remove the body of all your posts before deleting your account.
Oh well, I tried.
that doesn’t delete your content, even deleting your content doesn’t remove it from the servers and it can still be used for training, just not scraping
Reddit refugee here i never got my reddit account banned I just put the text I quit on its about me and left reddit (trying to find a alternative which was here on lemmy) but maybe one day it will get banned
I only mentioned the technical neatness of Guillotines; got me also banned.
But Lemmy feels better day by day anyway :)
