If Anthony Albanese, current prime minister, is in support of and vowed to install the Indigenous Voice advisory board, why can’t he just do it? He also made a comment beforehand that he would respect people’s decision if they vote no, implying that he might be able to override it if he wanted to.

"the PM on Sunday said Labor would “respect the response of Australians next Saturday”.

“If Australians vote no, I don’t believe that it would be appropriate to then go and say, ‘Oh, well, you’ve had your say, but we’re going to legislate anyway’.”

I personally believe that what white Australians want is irrelevant to the fundamental rights that the original owners of this land deserve, and he should have just done it if he was able to.

  • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world
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    Well, that’s democracy.

    Regardless of your thoughts on this individual matter, I’m glad the results are upheld despite what I think should happen.

    The real issue is why the Australian people voted the way they did. Disappointing for many.

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      But the Australian people already voted in Anthony Albanese, so whatever he does as the democratically elected leader is basically democratic isn’t it? Why would we need a separate vote for each decision when he could just make those decisions as the elected head of parliament?

      (Also I would add that when people chose Anthony Albanese as PM, they would have known he intended to strengthen indigenous representation and rights, so a Yes vote for Anthony was already a yes vote for Indigenous Voice, in my view).

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        amending the constitution of Australia requires a referendum in which the proposed amendment must be approved by a “double majority”: a majority of voters nationwide and a majority of voters in a majority of states.

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          Fair enough, but then why did Albanese suggest he had the ability to override the vote but was opting not to?

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            He can put a body in place. We’ve had them before. The trouble is: the opposition gets in and gets rid of it again.

            By having the body enshrined in the constitution, it’s permanent. Another party can’t come along and get rid of it again.

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            He doesn’t have the power to override the vote and put it in the constitution, but the body doesn’t need to be in the constitution to exist.

            They could form it legally without that section, there’s just nothing stopping it being torn down after the next election if he does, because the constitution wouldn’t be enforcing it. The whole point was to make it more resilient to attacks.

            Even if it were in the constitution, the government of the time would be able to choose the shape the Voice took, but I suppose the expectation would be that, if it were enshrined in the constitution, that’s a very strong message that messing with it would put the majority of the country against you.

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              Maybe he should just form the body anyway and hope that by the time the opposition are in power, people have realised it’s a good thing and they won’t reverse the decision?

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                That’s what’s likely going to happen, and there is a very high chance that it will get dismantled again, just like Abbott did after Rudd set up that very thing.

                All it will take is a media barrage in favour of the Coalition and we’ll be right back to where we started. History repeats, and so on, and so forth.

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        Australians do not vote for a Prime Minister, we vote for a political party which nominates its Prime Minister in the event of an election victory.

        By convention parties nominate the PM before and promote them during the campaign. PMs can however be chucked out by their own party without a vote by the public, as happened with Kevin Rudd.

        PMs do not simply have a carte blanche “mandate” to implement their election promises and must follow all parliamentary process.

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          we vote for a political party

          We vote for a local representative, who may or may not be a member of a political party.

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            You are correct, I will leave my post as is though.

            (To avoid confusion or making your comment seem irrelevant)

        • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zone
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          PMs can however be chucked out by their own party without a vote by the public, as happened with Kevin Rudd

          Infact, Scott Morrison was the first PM to last a full term since John Howard

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        Ain’t nothing democratic about the same two parties always winning.

        Albo was simply the least shit option, not chosen because he represented our wishes.

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        As much as I hate the result I still feel like this is a good way to go about things, the prime minister shouldn’t be able to alter the constitution willy nilly, it’s not their country it’s ours.