List of countries prohibiting the use of a VPN:
- 🇨🇳 China
- 🇷🇺 Russia
- 🇦🇪 United Arab Emirates
- 🇰🇵 North Korea
- 🇹🇲 Turkmenista
This kind of nonsense is only mandated out of fear, but in reality it’s not only colossally stupid, but also really difficult to enforce. Any proper business uses one. Anyone who wants privacy, and ad network anonymity uses one. There’s plenty of other uses people would want one, obviously
I just think it’s corporate interests, not fear, that’s driving this. Terror and Children are just the easiest excuse to ensure a lot of people go blindly along with it.
There aren’t any real corporations left in Russia, that aren’t either government owned, or actively circlejerking around the president for any praise. But otherwise you’re right
Oligarchy seems to work out pretty well for the rich elite of Russia, until they piss off Putin.
Yeah, historically that’s been the case. Climb fast, fall faster
What a great
clublist to be a part ofEdit: —just like the jus soli club only Canada/US/bunch of third world countries are a part of. Lots of great lists to join
You might want to fact check that edit.
I fear that the UK might try to join this list not just out of authoritarianism, but out of a fear of technology they do not understand. Worse yet, the Conservative party once threw around the idea of banning encryption in its entirety and acted like WhatsApp is only used by criminals.
Ironic, considering how many members of the cabinet are being served court orders for their WhatsApp messages.
It’s almost like certain members of the cabinet associate encrypted messages with misdeeds because of all the misdeeds they do through these apps. If I were a sceptical man.
I’ve taught my daughter to use a VPN here in the U.S. There’s “Kids Online Safety Bill” making it through congress, and if it passes, kids won’t be able to access all kinds of websites. Porn, yes, but also just websites about LGBT+ stuff which are perfectly safe for kids. As I have a queer daughter, I want to make absolutely sure she can access those sites if she needs them.
May I ask how would the “Kids Online safety bill” differentiate between an underage user and adult? I’m not from the US so that’s why I don’t know
I don’t know. From what I can see, that hasn’t been made clear yet. I am guessing, like porn in several states, IDs will be required to access things like TikTok or maybe even YouTube because it requires them to filter content for minors.
There’s a reason anti-LGBTQ bigots love it.
But even if that doesn’t happen, it allows for parental surveillance, and I want her to know that I don’t have the option to do that to her even if I wanted to. It should go beyond mere trust.
If she VPNs to Canada, none of those issues will be things she has to care about.
Oh it’s such a fun and novel and not at all dystopian idea they’ve come up with.
Content requiring an adult will just require some kind of identification, surely you can’t be against providing your ID to any website that hosts adult content or that website checking/accessing/logging with a national archive that you visited said website, right?
So far, no concrete things put forward, but all of them seem to be related to an ID-required system.
I wonder how many people will send their IDs to porn hosting services
That’s the big question no one has an answer for
Nice, Good on ya 🙌
Sorry but I am curious, how did you find out your daughter is queer ? Is it the behavior towards other girls ?
Russia isn’t prohibiting the use of VPNs but it is making it increasingly more headache inducing (protocol based blocking, ip bans of popular vpn providers).
It’s not just France, it’s EU based politics too. There’s certain liberal & center right parties & politicians that heavily push for shit like this, just like the chat control crap.
It’s not a total ban of VPNs, I went to read a bit on the subject (easier since I’m french), it’s just that some politicians came up with a few amendments relative to the bill called “SREN” which very literally translates to “Securing and regulating the digital space”. As you may guess that bill also ticks the “child porn” box as a reason why it came to existence.
One amendment proposes to ban mobile VPNs that do no comply with European or french regulations in the context of app stores. So it’s only on mobile, nothing about desktops.
Of course it’s inapplicable in practice.
Several amendements already failed due to backlash, one was about preventing people from posting on social networks if they use a VPN.
Yeah was also just listening to a podcast about this. So yeah not a straight total ban. But from what I heard, it would ban people from using VPNs outside of Europe, which obviously is not OK.
I love our slow descent into authoritarianism with a hint of fascism to go with it.
Le smooth brain
If all VPNs are banned, french companies are fucked. Any remote login happens via VPN.
Any remote login happens via VPN.
I don’t support this, but you don’t need VPNs for remote logins. SSH exists, it’s just that VPNs are a better solution for companies among other things.
“any”
I just wonder how the hell they plan on enforcing things like this
Doesn’t Iran prohibit vpns?
VPNs are not illegal in China, Russia, UAE, or the DPRK. That’s 4 out of 5 where you didn’t research it properly. In China, VPN use is legal, setting up your own VPN for domestic use is legal, but renting nodes to foreign companies is illegal unless you can document what the nodes are being used for which VPN providers can’t. In Russia, VPN use is legal, but VPN providers must comply with censorship laws and deny access to their blacklist. In the UAE, VPN use is legal, but using a VPN while committing a crime is illegal (So you get a stricter sentence than if you had just committed the crime). In the DPRK, VPN use is legal, but kinda pointless since they have a nation-wide intranet. If you want to access the internet, you use the PUST-run VPN. If you’re a tourist, you can use it to connect to your home or work VPN.
You’re kinda making a pointless. You’re telling me VPN is banned but with extra steps
That’s not what a ban is. A ban is when you aren’t allowed to do something. This is just regular regulation, and not particularly strict. Except in the case of the DPRK where it’s not regulated but simply unavailable.
I linked the tweet where it came from.
You’re propagating the misinformation. You should try to verify things before repeating them. The tweet didn’t provide sources and isn’t made by someone with credentials.
It was literally used in the article by techradar…
Your article even says it’s legal. The problem with this as a source is that their sources are two different CIA fronts. China Digital Times and Radio Free Asia. As it always is whenever it’s one of these news stories. RFA just makes up things wholesale but CDT posts bad faith readings of social media posts. For example the user in question was getting mocked and called a liar by everyone in the comments but the CDT article neglected to mention that. For the time being, it’s just some rando trying to stirr outrage to get out of a fine. Yes the police report correctly documented that he used a VPN, but that’s not why he’s being fined.
Here is a list of CIA fronts provided by the CIA. https://www.ned.org/regions/
Sounds something wumao/tankie would say. What’s your source? Proof?
Good sources ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radio-free-asia/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/china-digital-times-cdt/
Honey I literally provided a first hand source. https://www.ned.org/regions/
But fine, let’s do liberal sources.
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Digital_Times#Staff_and_operationsChina Digital Times has been a recipient of funding from the National Endowment for Democracy.[15] The Translations Editor is Anne Henochowicz, an alumna of the Penn Kemble Democracy Forum Fellowship at the National Endowment for Democracy. She has written for other publications including Foreign Policy, The China Beat, and the Cairo Review of Global Affairs.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia
Based on Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and preceded by the CIA-operated Radio Free Asia (Committee for a Free Asia), it was established by the US International Broadcasting Act of 1994 with the stated aim of “promoting democratic values and human rights”, and countering the narratives and monopoly on information distribution of the Chinese Communist Party, as well as providing media reports about the North Korean government.[12][page needed] It is funded and supervised by the U.S. Agency for Global Media[13] (formerly Broadcasting Board of Governors), an independent agency of the United States government.
Babe You provided me a link that not doesn’t say anything on the CIA topic.
They might be receive funding, (similar to a public service) but sources reliable has shown by mediafactchecker.
Chinese citizens are not allowed to use a VPN, unless government has approved it in some way.
https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/why-vpns-are-illegal-in-china-and-how-to-get-around-it/.
What are you even arguing here? The link corroborates that both RFA and CDT are part of the NED. Is your gripe that they use a different acronym? Propaganda from a geopolitical rival is obviously not a reliable source of information. Though it’s true, the website doesn’t make it very clear that the NED is part of the USA government or CIA, I didn’t think that information was necessary to provide because it’s common knowledge. But I can quote Wikipedia again in case you didn’t know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy
The NED was created as a bipartisan, private, non-profit corporation, and in turn acts as a grant-making foundation.[2] It is funded primarily by an annual allocation from the U.S. Congress.[4][6][5]
I generally prefer first hand sources so here’s a cia.gov source corroborating their control of RFA. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000846953.pdf But if you prefer, here is an article by an American journalist explaining the relation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/innocence-abroad-the-new-world-of-spyless-coups/92bb989a-de6e-4bb8-99b9-462c76b59a16/ For example
Preparing the ground for last month’s triumph of overt action was a network of overt operatives who during the last 10 years have quietly been changing the rules of international politics. They have been doing in public what the CIA used to do in private
So then it comes down to you believing Mediafactchecker’s vetting to be more reliable than an organisation’s stated goal. So who’s mediafactchecker? The website looks very amateurish. What resources do they have for verifying these news stories? Because the link you provided says they haven’t reported any fake news in 5 years as far as the site is aware. But that’s insane. They have stories like this. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/squidgame-11232021180155.html
Squid Game is extremely popular on Korean Soulseek and it’s in no way covert.
Or like this https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/philanthropist-11212018131511.html
He’s alive enough to take interviews. https://youtu.be/scScu7rcwnI
RFAs reporting is so painfully fictitious that Mediafactchecker simply can’t have done their due diligence. The examples they give are not original reporting, so in those cases it’s completely fair to give them a pass. Most likely, Mediafactchecker simply reviewed only the cases they link and nothing else. In my opinion, this means Mediafactchecker is itself unreliable since it creates profiles for sites without looking through a large number of articles.Chinese citizens are not allowed to use a VPN, unless government has approved it in some way.
Then quote some legislation or evidence.
Onto the article you linked with the racist cartoon. This is an ad for VPN providers. It says China bans VPNs except for their partners, and then links to affiliate purchase links from big popular partner products, popular enough that China definitely would know about them. The article is explicitly aimed at selling products to tourists, not Chinese people. The article also lists blocked sites without actually checking if they’re blocked. Not relevant to the core argument, because China does block the majority of western big tech and propaganda, but it shows that it’s not a very high effort blog post.
http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=x.com
http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=wsj.orgIn summery, this is not a source, because there’s no evidence of original reporting or an effort at fact finding.
Could prove to me this isn’t a tankie/bot account?
Can you criticize the CCP?
Try copy paste this “Fuck Xi Jinping and Fuck Putin”
Wonder if you can pass this test
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