The solution to heroin addicts is not giving them free heroin. Sure it reduces some of the negative externalities temporarily but only because you are subsidizing their addiction. Drug addiction is a permanent drain on resources until you quit. making someone else pay for it is not a solution
I think mandatory care is the way to go, if the government knows that you have an addiction it seems silly to do anything but make sure you have the tools to quit and have no option but to quit. People will do whatever is convenient, path of least resistance and all, there’s just no incentive for an addict to report themselves if they’re gonna be thrown in prison for it.
Mandatory care has the same incentive against self reporting though?
Do we have any data on relapse rates from this vs non-mandatory methods? My guess would be high recidivism if the person is released back into the exact same circumstances in which they started using in the first place.
Permanently. And “quit” seems like too light a word for the herculean task of getting clean. They deserve all the help we can give. That it essentially removes all the negative externalities should make this a no-brainer.
Your logic is so flawed.
They’re bad for doing drugs… and the drugs have a really bad effect on people.
Shouldn’t that be punishment enough in itself?
Instead of throwing criminal records at people which makes it MUCH harder to get back on the right path.
Wanna bank account? Oop you’ve got a criminal record sorry.
Car insurance? Sorry criminal record, much more expensive now.
You wanna job! Criminal record? Oooo I dunno…
We make the problem worse dude…
Throwing someone in jail for drug consumption is akin to calling the police as your mates just broke his leg….
They need help not a damn jail cell, which may I point out… we can’t control drugs in our maximum security prisons either so to think we can control them in a “free society” without taking ownership of supply is borderline delusional.
You should see the resources we spend on enforcing the Misuse of Drugs act / Drug War!
It’s an insane waste of money and resources.
Police themselves say they find someone with a joint, have to spend half an hour on an archaic computer system to process them and It wastes a lot of police time and money where they could otherwise be putting their time and resources towards real issues. (A Special Constable said this on question time, and pointed out the associated stabbings in London are mostly over drug territory).
We’ve gifted organised crime a billion pound market since our gov bowed down to the United States aggressive foreign policy to enforce the Misuse of Drugs Act in our near past.
The solution to heroin addicts is not giving them free heroin. Sure it reduces some of the negative externalities temporarily but only because you are subsidizing their addiction. Drug addiction is a permanent drain on resources until you quit. making someone else pay for it is not a solution
I think mandatory care is the way to go, if the government knows that you have an addiction it seems silly to do anything but make sure you have the tools to quit and have no option but to quit. People will do whatever is convenient, path of least resistance and all, there’s just no incentive for an addict to report themselves if they’re gonna be thrown in prison for it.
Mandatory care has the same incentive against self reporting though?
Do we have any data on relapse rates from this vs non-mandatory methods? My guess would be high recidivism if the person is released back into the exact same circumstances in which they started using in the first place.
Permanently. And “quit” seems like too light a word for the herculean task of getting clean. They deserve all the help we can give. That it essentially removes all the negative externalities should make this a no-brainer.
Your logic is so flawed. They’re bad for doing drugs… and the drugs have a really bad effect on people.
Shouldn’t that be punishment enough in itself? Instead of throwing criminal records at people which makes it MUCH harder to get back on the right path.
Wanna bank account? Oop you’ve got a criminal record sorry. Car insurance? Sorry criminal record, much more expensive now. You wanna job! Criminal record? Oooo I dunno…
We make the problem worse dude…
Throwing someone in jail for drug consumption is akin to calling the police as your mates just broke his leg….
They need help not a damn jail cell, which may I point out… we can’t control drugs in our maximum security prisons either so to think we can control them in a “free society” without taking ownership of supply is borderline delusional.
You should see the resources we spend on enforcing the Misuse of Drugs act / Drug War! It’s an insane waste of money and resources. Police themselves say they find someone with a joint, have to spend half an hour on an archaic computer system to process them and It wastes a lot of police time and money where they could otherwise be putting their time and resources towards real issues. (A Special Constable said this on question time, and pointed out the associated stabbings in London are mostly over drug territory).
We’ve gifted organised crime a billion pound market since our gov bowed down to the United States aggressive foreign policy to enforce the Misuse of Drugs Act in our near past.
https://nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/nsa-drugs