Thanks, your explanation is interesting and makes sense at my level of abstraction.
Eventually i would like it, if some physicist could come up with a cosmology where energy could be created and entropy of a close system could decrease … in specific conditions and in our present day universe.
Also, in my naive understanding, chaotic pendulums creates information.
Also: The Lagrangian mathematics they use for quantum physics can be used to describe universes like the one you talk about, and if you’re interested in things like that then I absolutely have to recommend some novels by the mathematician and science fiction author Greg Egan. It’s way easier to start grasping how weird the physics can get when you get a story from the perspective of people who live there:
The Orthogonal Trilogy (2011-2013) is set in a 4d universe where the passage of time is dependent on the direction of travel in space, about a generation ship launched on an anti-timewise loop back around to the near future to develop a solution to an impending apocalyptic crisis of energy creation at the quantum scale.
Dichronauts (2017) is a journey to the end of the world in a universe where time has two dimensions and life evolved as a symbiosis of two creatures that could each experience only one direction in time.
Schild’s Ladder (2002) is set in a distant future where an experiment gone awry creates a more stable form of vacuum, creating an event horizon that expands at half the speed of light. 600 years later, a ship studying the event horizon discovers that the complex geometry of the new space behind it harbors intelligent life at a much smaller scale, with their equivalent of microbes being built from the interactions of a veritable zoo of quantum fields rather than molecules and proteins.
Quarantine (1992) explores the copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, set on a future earth where the technology to put the waveform of a human mind into superposition with reality was invented. The user could turn it on, then live all possible lives from that monent until the version of themselves that achieved the result they desired would turn it off and collapse reality back into a single state. This isn’t really possible for complicated physics reasons, but if it was then it’d enable seemingly impossible things to become true. The novel explores the consequences of such a future conflicting with the existence of alien species that evolved within superpositioned reality and can’t survive when it’s collapsed into a single unique state.
“Information” in the quantum sense refers to the waveform of the quantum system as a whole, which is kind of a weird thing to get one’s head around.
Even in the case of chaotic pendulums, there’s no theoretical principle that keeps us from observing and accounting for every particle and quanta of energy involved and using that to prove that the waveform of the entire pendulum is consistent with itself and the expected evolution from previous states.
But the event horizons of black holes seem to break that rule, because the waveforms of black holes can be described with just three properties; mass, charge, and spin. There didn’t seem to be “room” for them to encode all the waveforms of anything that falls inside until Stephen Hawking theorized that it could be saved in polarization states of the event horizon boundary and black holes would gradually radiate it away.
i like science and its immense benefits in most fields, still, i resist some theories and ideas.
Thanks again for your clear explanations … but i will not be scientific on this ! … and will prefer my “feelings” instead of the scientific consensus. Considering this, it’s a good thing I’m not working in this field 🤣
Thanks, your explanation is interesting and makes sense at my level of abstraction.
Eventually i would like it, if some physicist could come up with a cosmology where energy could be created and entropy of a close system could decrease … in specific conditions and in our present day universe.
Also, in my naive understanding, chaotic pendulums creates information.
Also: The Lagrangian mathematics they use for quantum physics can be used to describe universes like the one you talk about, and if you’re interested in things like that then I absolutely have to recommend some novels by the mathematician and science fiction author Greg Egan. It’s way easier to start grasping how weird the physics can get when you get a story from the perspective of people who live there:
The Orthogonal Trilogy (2011-2013) is set in a 4d universe where the passage of time is dependent on the direction of travel in space, about a generation ship launched on an anti-timewise loop back around to the near future to develop a solution to an impending apocalyptic crisis of energy creation at the quantum scale.
Dichronauts (2017) is a journey to the end of the world in a universe where time has two dimensions and life evolved as a symbiosis of two creatures that could each experience only one direction in time.
Schild’s Ladder (2002) is set in a distant future where an experiment gone awry creates a more stable form of vacuum, creating an event horizon that expands at half the speed of light. 600 years later, a ship studying the event horizon discovers that the complex geometry of the new space behind it harbors intelligent life at a much smaller scale, with their equivalent of microbes being built from the interactions of a veritable zoo of quantum fields rather than molecules and proteins.
Quarantine (1992) explores the copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, set on a future earth where the technology to put the waveform of a human mind into superposition with reality was invented. The user could turn it on, then live all possible lives from that monent until the version of themselves that achieved the result they desired would turn it off and collapse reality back into a single state. This isn’t really possible for complicated physics reasons, but if it was then it’d enable seemingly impossible things to become true. The novel explores the consequences of such a future conflicting with the existence of alien species that evolved within superpositioned reality and can’t survive when it’s collapsed into a single unique state.
This is very complicated, let me sleep on it, i will come back to your comment later.
“Information” in the quantum sense refers to the waveform of the quantum system as a whole, which is kind of a weird thing to get one’s head around.
Even in the case of chaotic pendulums, there’s no theoretical principle that keeps us from observing and accounting for every particle and quanta of energy involved and using that to prove that the waveform of the entire pendulum is consistent with itself and the expected evolution from previous states.
But the event horizons of black holes seem to break that rule, because the waveforms of black holes can be described with just three properties; mass, charge, and spin. There didn’t seem to be “room” for them to encode all the waveforms of anything that falls inside until Stephen Hawking theorized that it could be saved in polarization states of the event horizon boundary and black holes would gradually radiate it away.
i like science and its immense benefits in most fields, still, i resist some theories and ideas.
Thanks again for your clear explanations … but i will not be scientific on this ! … and will prefer my “feelings” instead of the scientific consensus. Considering this, it’s a good thing I’m not working in this field 🤣