• frostbiker@lemmy.ca
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    I’m surprised that Canada doesn’t have the #1 spot in housing unaffordability. Things are grim here.

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      On a national level there’s a lot of cheap places in sparsely populated areas. Just like the US.

      England has some “country” but it’s a much smaller percentage so city prices aren’t offset as much.

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        England also has a very unusual distribution for the population. The Greater London area is something in the order of 1/3 of the entire population alone.

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          Yes, but the uk doesn’t have the spare non urban centres. The uk is densely populated throughout, pretty much.

          London to Brighton is really one big city, for instance.

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            Yes, but the uk doesn’t have the spare non urban centres

            There is plenty of space in the north of the UK, where the climate is far milder than in the immense majority of the territory in Canada.

            Windsor to Montreal is also really one big city. Unsurprisingly since it’s one of the areas with relatively mild climate, compared to places like Nunavut.

            Space is not the problem. The problem is that we welcome over a million people coming to the country per year and we are not building nearly enough housing for them.

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          Crazy stat I heard is that 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border while at the same time the country is the 2nd largest in the world.

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    But a popular location for people to buy investment properly from abroad and a lot of wealthy people have two or more homes - bits of Cornwall are so overtaken by second homes they’re ghost towns most the year, locals priced out of the market end up having to live in illegally located caravans or with their parents in a run down mundic crumbling house.

    London is like it too, every new apartment block we’ve worked at has been half sold to overly rich people using it on the weeks they come in to work or socialise in the city while the other half gets sold to an over seas investment company for rental.

    Personally I think our government should do deals with other countries to try and unload some of us

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      The solution is a second home tax, which is to be paid, if you do not live in a house for a given period every year. Obviously it needs to be high enough.

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        This would still allow the super rich to take over a town. So, another idea: A second home cap, which must not be exceeded. Say a village decides they can handle 1% of their houses owned by the 1%, but not more. Once these two houses found their part-time inhabitants, #3 must wait, or go somewhere else. A bit like garden plots, or boat piers. Naturally, this would also drive prices due to scarcity.

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            Fuck vacation homes. As long as not everybody has a home, nobody should have two.

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    Moving to London recently was an eye-opening experience. I came from Frankfurt (one of the most expensive German cities), yet finding a place was astronomically harder and in the end we pay around twice what we did for a similarly located (but smaller!) flat.

    In general most housing seems to be much worse quality as well. Our current place is actually quite nice and feels very solid/well insulated, but many places that I viewed (or briefly lived in) were really run-down, poorly insulated, or clearly just poorly-built.

    I’m not sure if it is one of the causes, but we were also looking into buying a place here and found that owning (and presumably building) anything other than single-family houses is a bit of a clusterfuck (here in England at least, I’ve heard it’s better in Scotland) with the whole “leasehold” system.

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      Our current place is actually quite nice and feels very solid/well insulated, but many places that I viewed (or briefly lived in) were really run-down, poorly insulated, or clearly just poorly-built.

      Even when I visited England and Wales in 2013 the whole place gave me the impression that a lot of buildings (especially commercial ones but not just) were closed, abandoned or otherwise just a relic of the past.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    About a quarter of private renters in the UK are also “overburdened” by housing costs – spending more than 40% of income, compared with just 9% in France and 5% in Germany, according to OECD data.

    Labour has said it might release greenbelt for building when it is “dilapidated, neglected scrubland” and will “put social and genuinely affordable housing at the very heart of our plans to jump-start the housebuilding industry”.

    Stewart Baseley, the executive chair of the HBF said the figures are “a wake-up call, demonstrating the urgent need to act now to prevent us falling even further behind”.

    The study found the UK has the lowest number of homes built since 1980 of any of Spain, France, Portugal, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.

    The construction industry has been frustrated by the government’s stop-start approach to planning reforms, as it has weighed the need for more building against opposition from voters in Tory constituencies concerned about over-development.

    By contrast the share of the population living with leaking roofs, damp or rot in Poland was 6% and 12% in Germany, figures from Eurostat show.


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    It’s worse than in the Netherlands??? I thought the Netherlands had a higher population density than the UK which would correlate with housing prices, but I guess something else is going on there.

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      The UK is poorer then the Netherlands on a per capita bases. The UK has a massive unequality problem, which makes it even worse.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    About a quarter of private renters in the UK are also “overburdened” by housing costs – spending more than 40% of income, compared with just 9% in France and 5% in Germany, according to OECD data.

    Labour has said it might release greenbelt for building when it is “dilapidated, neglected scrubland” and will “put social and genuinely affordable housing at the very heart of our plans to jump-start the housebuilding industry”.

    Stewart Baseley, the executive chair of the HBF said the figures are “a wake-up call, demonstrating the urgent need to act now to prevent us falling even further behind”.

    The study found the UK has the lowest number of homes built since 1980 of any of Spain, France, Portugal, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.

    The construction industry has been frustrated by the government’s stop-start approach to planning reforms, as it has weighed the need for more building against opposition from voters in Tory constituencies concerned about over-development.

    By contrast the share of the population living with leaking roofs, damp or rot in Poland was 6% and 12% in Germany, figures from Eurostat show.


    The original article contains 686 words, the summary contains 184 words. Saved 73%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!