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      Probably a good move on your part. When they try to force windows 11 on me, that’s when I will be moving to Linux.

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        Why wait, do it now.

        I jumped ship to Linux when Win 7 died, cause I’d rather be fucked by a rusty fencepost than be forced to use 10, and 11 is right out.

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          Looking to move an older Windows 7 laptop to Linux this week, any suggestions? Feels like there’s so much.

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            If you just need a general purpose desktop and it’s your your first time, I would suggest just picking a popular and stable one with lots of documentation like Debian, Mint or Ubuntu.

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            Fedora saved my old Windows laptop and it was a pretty smooth switch from Windows for me (though I had a bit of Linux experience). That thing became quicker than when I first bought it haha.

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            Choose a variation of Mint. They have a lighter weight build that is perfect for older hardware just read their site. Mint operates and feels extremely close to w7 and its easy to use! Promise you’ll like it

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            I’ve been doing the same thing, trying out distros on an old laptop in anticipation of moving all my machines over to Linux.

            Linux Mint is by far the most popular for noobs on older hardware, has a clean if simple interface, and will run on tiny amounts of RAM, so if you have no other suggestions and don’t know much about Linux, I’d say start there.

            Linux Mint is not Ubuntu, but based on it, so there’s a lot of support. As a Windows and Mac user I found the Linux Mint “Cinnamon” desktop environment easy enough to navigate, it’s solid in terms of broad hardware support, and there are a LOT of resources if you have questions, want to watch a tutorial, or need a helping hand, all pluses for a noob. (And I don’t think I had to touch the command line once, when I had it installed: bonus.)

            But the cool thing is that most Linux distros have a “LiveUSB” install, meaning that you can load the .iso of your choice onto a 4GB USB drive, boot off the USB, and take the hardware for a spin without installing anything. LiveUSB means you can try as many distros as you like until you get tired of making USB drives, and all for free.

            Somebody else here suggested “Ubuntu” to you without saying another word about it, but there’s a lot more to it than that. You still have to pick a desktop environment, for example, and while there’s nothing wrong with plain Ubuntu, I honestly don’t think that’s the most user-friendly distro you could start with.

            Try it, see if you like it. Most distros are completely free, including Ubuntu. But if you’re just looking at finding ONE to start with, again, try Linux Mint: it’s popular for Linux noobs for a reason, it’s stable, and even if you find you don’t like it, it’s a great place to dip your toe in and see how Linux works for you personally.

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              I agree with every point you make except for the desktop environment front end.

              While it is nice to install a distro with a given desktop environment OOTB, you can always change it, and even have multiple ones installed at the same time. This is typically a better approach to testing out desktop environments because you don’t have to reinstall every time.

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                I am testing both, so for me a mix of both is best.

                While it is nice to install a distro with a given desktop environment OOTB, you can always change it, and even have multiple ones installed at the same time.

                This is true for Debian, but not for many others. Even Fedora ships with preloaded DE “spins” now. And changing it post-install requires more than beginner level knowledge, specific to that OS. For someone coming over to Linux directly from Windows/Mac, that’s not really feasible upfront.

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          Why wait, do it now.

          Because Linux is a giant pain in the ass for anyone who is not a software engineer.

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              In the way that you will be expected to memorize a plethora of commands that you then type into a text-based interface the same way you would have with Windows DOS in 1998.

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        My new hardware is literally incompatible with Windows 11. They’re doing me a kindness I don’t want all this AI shit on my PC

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          Haha, I had a partition on my pc for the longest time to put Linux on it. But I do a lot of game dev stuff, so I’ve been reluctant to switch from windows.

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              Real question. Is gaming (not game dev) significantly better than it was 5 years ago on Linux? I really want to switch, but I also really don’t want to give up everything “just working” and doing it smoothly when gaming on windows.

              I’ve even considered having 2 PC’s for my 4 monitors, and having the middle monitor run windows and the other 3 on a Linux box. I used to use a program that could simulate my mouse moving from one pc to an entirely different one even across windows and Linux, and also share the clipboard. I could try that again.

              But if the gaming experience is sufficient and convenient on Linux I might switch entirely.

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                It’s vastly better than it was 5 years ago. You can get an idea by going to protondb.com and looking at games. Basically, most games work out of the box with minimal to no issues. Even most new games work on release without major issues.

                The biggest issue is anti-cheat and DRM. That can be a show stopped for some users, but for me it hasn’t been an issue.

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                I switched full time to Linux about 3 months ago, I had been wanting to for a long time since I prefer dev work on Linux and generally hate Windows.

                Gaming is nearly as easy on Linux as on windows, especially through steam imo. Almost all games will work right out of the box, just set steam to use proton for any non linux-natve games and it does it. The only game I’ve had an issue with is cyberpunk 2077, and that was fixed with a few minutes of googling, then pasting a launch config into the settings, now it runs perfectly. One thing to watch out for, no games that use a kernal-level anticheat will work on Linux unless they specifically support it, sucky but those anticheat software makers are coming around to support it slowly.

                I actually prefer installing software on Linux to doing it on Windows. Same process for finding software, just Google it and look for stuff that works on Linux. Even proprietary stuff runs natively on Linux sometimes, I personally look for free and open source software as an alternative every time and it usually is better imo. Once you find what you want, it’s super easy to install. No need to deal with downloading files, clicking them to install, and all that jazz. Just open a terminal and do “yay -S {package name}” and it’ll install. Also makes it very easy to install multiple things at once, especially if you already know what software you want. Cherry on top, updates aren’t forced on you. You can update all of your packages with “yay -Syu”, or update individual ones if you want, there’s a lot of control over it, and you don’t need to rely on the app to have its own update tool.

                Sometimes there’s windows specific software that isn’t on Linux, it kind of sucks, but almost everytime I’m able to find free and open source software that’s natively Linux compatible and is better than the closed source software I initially wanted. Even with windows-specific software, most things can be run with wine and work just like a native Linux app. Sometimes things don’t work on wine, but basically all of them will have free and open source alternatives you can use instead, or there are workarounds that are probably easy to find.

                If you wanted to do the 2 PC’s you definitely can, I would recommend one PC and just add a Linux partition or hard drive, you then boot into Windows or Linux but don’t need a whole new PC. You have to reboot to go between them, but you can access each systems files from the other one (can’t run games, but like documents and such). If you do go with 2 PC’s though, I recommend using an app called Barrier for the mouse/keyboard sharing. I use it between my PC (Linux) and my work laptop (windows) and it’s great, my work laptop stays folded up and I have only one mouse and keyboard on my desk.

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                  I have a 64bit Mac that can’t play 32bit Steam games anymore (which is all of them). I’m thinking of switching to Linux specifically for games. What you’re saying so I could play whatever on Linux via steam? And Steam isn’t a massive pain in the ass to install and configure like it used to be?? Holy shit, that’s game changing. Pun intended.

                  Is Master Chief Collection on Steam? That would be amazing since the only instance of Windows I had decided to change it’s own password and essentially lock me out.

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                  I’ll look into barrier, thanks. I work in the gaming industry (from home, on my own pc) and so I am constantly running games and doing non-gaming tasks on and off so dual booting is not really an option for me. I often need to do normal tasks while games are running too. Which is why I wanted that 2 pc setup I mentioned above.

                  However I think I might dual boot just to try Linux out with gaming for now (I have a spare ssd I can use to keep it simple) since I see a lot of people saying it’s pretty good now. Then if it works out I can just transition to only Linux.

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                I have two hard drives. One dedicated to each Windows and Linux. It maies life easier.

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                That’s what a lot of Linux people miss. They’ve been dealing with it for a while already so a lot of them are like “it’s so easy!” and then they have to start explaing repos and containers to people and the person just sticks to Windows.

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                If you play a lot of competitive multiplayer games, it would be better to keep a windows partition for them (overwatch is the only game that I had a good experience on Linux).

                I used to play some competitive Apex, I was overjoyed when I heard anti cheat support is available on Linux, and quickly installed it. I tried it a couple of times since then, the most recent being last month - The game is playable but not on a competitive level imho. The smoothness is just not there. Then again this might be because of my low spec hardware.

                Games like Valorant just won’t work because of their kernel level anticheat. (But hey we have Conter-Strike 2 now)

                AAA games run just fine for the most part, its playable and I usually get performance similar to windows.

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                The steam deck uses a custom Linux distro made by valve specifically for it. So it’s at least good enough for gaming that valve trusted it for their mainstream handled gaming PC.

                I’ve got one and tbh it’s pretty good. As long as you stick to games that are rated as either verified or playable on steamdeck you’ll probably have a good time.

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              You’ve made me remember that quite not long ago I wanted to play on Linux (precisely on Mint, but I’ve also tried pop os), and I had three results:

              1 - Game not even trying to launch/wine error (usually related to graphics) (did happen once or twice, tested few games): Factorio, without magic wine parameters and magic overall

              2 - Game runs, but graphical glitches makes it unplayable: Factorio after tweaks

              3 - Game running fine, fps lower or equal than on windows: Minecraft, Kerbal space program

              (Yes, now I know Factorio also had Linux version, but it’s too late for that)

              So while it may be playable for some 9999 IQ rice master couch-looking moderator after just touching the demon named Wine, I don’t have the brains, patience or time tweaking every little parameter/environmental vars/wine prefixes on top of each other to make a game play at 2 fps. It also didn’t help that when trying to resolve apt conflicts, Mint just killed itself (looking at you aptitude). My overall experience of Linux isn’t bad, it may be good for customization masters, but for me, which would like having things “just working”, and maybe after that some trial and error tweaks, Windows is closer to that wish. Although when MS forces W11 onto me, I’m jumpshipping to Linux, no matter how shitty my UX is (at least I hope so)

              Edit: forgot that there is markdown, formating fix

              Edit2: bad brain, missing word fix

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                Honestly that is a pretty awful experience. Proton is infinitely better for games than wine in my opinion though, I definitely recommend giving it another try. I have a good 20 games on steam from AAA to indie, the only one to have any issues was cyberpunk 2077 and even that was a simple launch command fix that I found in a couple minutes of googling the problem and it runs fine now.

                I admittedly haven’t dealt with wine too much since most games can be run with proton and I avoid programs that don’t support Linux, but I was able to run heavily modded Minecraft at basically the same fps as on windows with no wine tweaking. Lutris is also a good platform that can make installing non-steam games much easier

                If you want a good os to try instead of jumping ship at random, I’d recommend grabbing endeavour os and picking whatever desktop environment you like on top of it, all of their stuff looks good right out of the box and gets you a lot of the necessities. Any of their official desktop environments (except i3) are super easy to use and should be familiar to windows users, I’m a strong believer in arch superiority because if there’s a problem, someone else has already fixed it and you can steal their solution even though there is a learning curve to customizing it

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                Proton is incredibly simple to use, and gaming on Linux is pretty seamless for like 3/4+ of games now. Including Factorio.

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              Oh cool, I didn’t realize that was a thing. If I can run Unreal Engine on Linux, that’s pretty much the only thing stopping me from switching.

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      Me too !! Been loving Ubuntu the last couple of months. Had very few issues other than one time my Gui stopped working and it would only boot into terminal, if anyone knows how to fix that it would be great incase it happens again . Last time I just did a fresh install.

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    Dude ms defender used to delete my “Hello World” executables built using visual studio just because they were made by an unknown publisher.

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    I’m not sure about the browser, but a lot of malware used to ship with the tor binary and used it to connect to the CNC. I can totally see it ending up in the indicator list.

    I love bashing MS as much as the next guy, but this is not completely indefensible behavior given typical user use cases and needs. As long as it’s easy to add an exception of you installed it on purpose.

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      Yeah I’m guessing this is a false positive based on heuristic analysis, i.e. the TOR program has a lot of the same behaviors as malicious programs. Of course it is more accurate to say that the malicious programs are copying TOR behavior or just straight using TOR code, whatever the case may be.

      My main issue is that it kind of shows a lack of due diligence. I assume the official TOR binaries are signed, so the official TOR binaries should be exempted from these heuristic positives. If the binaries are unsigned/have no valid certificates, then I can totally understand the false positive. At that point, the user should know they are installing software that cannot be automatically verified as being safe, and antivirus should never assume that something is safe otherwise. Like you said, for typical users this should be the expected behavior. Users can always undo Windows Defender actions and add exemptions.

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        I still don’t understand why Windows doesn’t use .exe whitelisting instead of bothering with endless blacklists and heuristics and antiviruses.

        On any given system there’s a handful of legit .exe while out there there’s like a billion malware .exe, and more created every minute.

        Or at least switch to an explicit “executable” flag like on MacOS and Linux.

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          Windows has both WDAC and Applocker for allowlisting, not just for exes, but stuff such as powershell scripts and what drivers run in the kernel as well.

          https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/application-security/application-control/windows-defender-application-control/

          In it’s strongest form (a signed WDAC policy) even admin access can’t easily override it, and a well written policy can even enforce stuff such as downgrade protection (example: only allow firefox.exe signed by Mozilla at or above a certain version) which prevents an attacker from loading older versions of an executable.

          The problem is that it’s not so easy to use in practice - an installer will often drop loads of unsigned files. Tor Browser ironically enough is a prime example, and any WDAC policies allowing it have to fallback on hash rules, which are fragile and must be regenerated every update, or filepath rules which are not so robust.

          Microsoft is trying to make allowlisting more accessible with Smart App Control, which runs WDAC under the hood. It does save the hassle of managing one’s own policies (and also blocks certain filetypes like lnks commonly used for malware), but it is not very customizable.

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          From my experience, Windows by default completely blocks non-Microsoft-verified .exes. It’s called S mode and usually requires a Microsoft account to exit.

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            Do you mean that it’s enough just to be on a microsoft account? On 10, I didn’t technically do anything to exit that and I just have an annoying popup first time I’m using an unverified app. I can just allow them.

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              You need to “download” normal mode from the store, which requires a Microsoft account to use. All of the W11 computers I’ve gotten came in S mode.

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          Because it makes it the easiest thing to spoof an .exe which enables attacks of which you will never get out of. A legit.exe vs a spoofed legit.exe will be the exact same in every way except the coding in spoofed fucks you.

          Edit: you’re trading security risk for security risk that makes it easier to hide. Not worth it.

          Edit 2: their is nothing 100% secure MD5 and Sha1 are both spoofable. Checksums and anything is capable of being man in the middle. You people act like you just found something that can’t be broken. This is the real world the moment you switch most black hatters and white hatters will switch too…

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            How is this getting upvoted. This is ridiculous garbage, every exe whitelist would obviously have checksums attached, not just a filename.

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            Lmao your edit 2 is completely silly. SHA-256 is what would be used for checksum verification, and SHA-256 is pretty much collision resistant, and even then if two files computed the same hash they would have such different contents/properties that it would be obvious they are not the same file. MD5 and SHA-1 have been phased out for any serious usage for a while now.

            Seriously tho, if you don’t know what you are talking about you should probably stop making a fool of yourself

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            Not really, WDAC doesn’t usually just look at the filename. It can look at the certificate it was signed by, or fallback to using hashes.

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          Same here. Totally talking about Computer Numerical Control of course, absolutely no other association. Nope, definitely not. 😇

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    I’ve run into antiviruses blocking code I’ve written just because I pulled in certain cryptographic libs. Literally pulling in some Microsoft cryptography libraries in c# made it think I was writing a crypto locker.

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    A little context, one of the larger exit nodes was compromised and would send malware to your computer. The behavior shield probably caught this and correctly marked the program as a trojan, since, by definition, that’s literally what it was acting as when connected to that node. More advanced AVs (like malwarebytes) will instead block the malicious connection rather than blanket-banning the entire program.

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      It blows my mind that Windows can be and is so incompetent. If they did not hold the level of market share that they do, that would be out of business.

      People are literally locked in because the software is not made for Linux. But Linux keeps marching and getting better.

      We have the games, now all we need are a few professional applications and then Windows can easily be replaced.

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        But it’s just defender. It’s free and you don’t have to use it.

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          It’s not just defender, Window has so many problem. Like constant ads to try to get me to use Bing and Edge. It is bundling a bunch of random software and games during install. It is forcing users to create a Microsoft account when setting up the computer.

          On top of all of this, it is the only operating system to crashes on on me during use. Even though it is on my most powerful hardware, it is the computer that runs sluggishly all the time.

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            You don’t have to create a Microsoft account to use Windoows. In corporate environments most issues are usually mitigated by administrators via group policy. Crashing and bad performance are not typical. Windows is very reliable,

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      This is a bad response to this news. There are many reasons why you might want to run tor on Windows and gatekeeping people out of tor because they are not on a chosen OS is a terribly way to get more people into thinking about privacy and security practices. Yes if you have the highest threat model you might want to avoid Windows as well, but not everyone needs absolute privacy/security for what they do. But why should you not have access to a tool that can help improve things even if you are not able to switch everything to a more private/secure alternative?

      Really you should want everyone and anyone to run on tor, even if they don’t need it, even if they are on windows. The more people using it the more secure it is for those that do require it.

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        Yeah I agree. To be clear, if you take the reverse of my statement, i.e. if you’re on Windows, you shouldn’t use Tor, then I would be gatekeeping.

        But I’m not implying that, but rather the reverse. I’m saying if you have use Tor for whatever reasons to bypass censorship, do illegal stuff and avoid being tracked, you should at least be aware that at the kernel level, how you’re accessing the internet has already been compromised by Microsoft, and consider alternatives OSes

        Of course I’d still want people running Windows to be able to use Tor, and also I’d say leaving Windows isn’t something you would only do at the “highest threat model”.

        Privacy will almost always be a trade-off with convenience, I’m pushing the awareness to get people to act, should they choose to. That’s all.

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          You might not have intended to imply that, but your original words can be taken in many different ways. Such as a dismissive well this news does not matter because you should not be using TOR if you are on windows. You did not say that exactly, but either interpenetration needs some reading between the lines as you did not really say all that much. So it could be taken that way just as much as the way you actually intended. And on the internet if things can be interpreted multiple ways they will be.

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            Taking “If P then not Q” as equivalent to “If not Q then not P” is just straight up broken thinking. Basic logic should be treated as an expected prerequisite to meaningful conversation.

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              I’m not saying you’re wrong (frankly, I’m on your side), but the majority of the general population, i.e. windows users, would take it as such. This is more to do with the failure of the various education systems more so than anything else.

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              I know you meant well, but I don’t think their interpretation implied any logical fallacy. I used a conditional statement but my statement was prescriptive, not descriptive.

              The difference between “I should” and “I have to/must” is a modal one. I implied “if I have to X then I shouldn’t Y”. They swapped X and Y around to get “If I have to Y then I shouldn’t X”, which is just a plain misinterpretation. The use of what is and what ought implies a recommendation or opinion, not mutual exclusivity. For that, I would have to use the same modality “If I have to X then I must not do Y”.

              It’s like mixing up “If I have an infectious disease, I shouldn’t go outside” vs. “If I have to go outside, I shouldn’t have an infectious disease”. To me, they have a subtle difference. There is compromise and decision-making involved.

              I’ll spell it out anyway because why not. I can’t be bothered to edit my original comment. While it’s sensational-sounding, anyone who take issue with what I said don’t take surveillance properly so I can’t help them, while those that misinterpreted me like nous did can find out for themselves here.

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              If I have to use Windows, then I can still use Tor understanding and accepting that the OS at the kernel level is a black box that logs and tracks whatever it wants. I can compromise because I might just want to read a blocked news site or Wikipedia. Likewise, if I’m stuck somewhere and I have to use Windows to use Tor then it is a compromise. But that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t use Tor. I’m responsible for my bad opsec should anything bad come my way.

              versus

              If I have to use Tor, then something is wrong with the way I’m able to access and/or spread information (I handle sensitive or illegal topics, that can harm me or others if found out), and I can’t do it privately because there is surveillance involved. At the kernel level windows is a blackbox that mishandle my data and has the ability to observe everything I do. Therefore I ought to not use Windows.

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              Oh my God, nerds, stop arguing about absolutely nothing other than who was rught

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              If you have to bust out explanations from IQ test questions to explain yourself, then you’ve failed to communicate with 98% of whoever reads your comment. You can’t expect people to put in more than a modicum of effort to understand your message.

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      Sometimes people use Tor just to get around ‘This site is blocked in your country’

      But hey, I hear ya! I’ve been running Linux as my daily driver since 2015, and the more they enshittify Windows, the more I recommend others make the switch.

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        Agreed. I thought of ISP restrictions too, but I would say if where you live places a level of censorship due to political reasons or otherwise and you need to access it for whatever reasons so you need Tor then by all means Microsoft is not your friend since they’re a privacy nightmare.

        There are also VPNs for banned media, I typically wouldn’t want to use Tor for anything more than textual content as it puts too much load on the Tor network.

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        Me too. I noped out of Win10 after fighting with Win7 too much. Most people tell me I’m just unusual however I think more people than will admit just browse the web and can’t handle Win95 levels of customization and lack of making decisions for you. People are generally overwhelmed with the mere idea that they could customize their computer to work in different ways… Heck, on Windows it’s varied if you can even reasonably change to a different default browser without being “techie” (stupid low bar considered techie by many)…

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        I really need to bite the bullet and wipe windows off my new laptop. I’ve had an arch based distro downloaded and ready to go since mid August. Just don’t want to have to download my steam library again. My shitty Internet is painful sometimes.

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            Can confirm you can just move the game files to your Linux steam library to avoid redownloading

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              That might help. Sadly I don’t have enough raw space worth of thumb drives. And I’d do a full install of Linux, no dual booting.

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          Oof, I hear ya there. At least in my case I pretty much only play older games from GOG, usually in a virtual machine, so no Steam for me.

          I did however go out of my way to download and compile the source code for Descent 1 and 2 directly on Linux, that was fun figuring out how to compile LOL!

          Good luck with your Steam library though. If it was me, I’d test Linux out in a virtual machine first so you can test out copying your games over without outright wiping Windows first.

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      I’d love to switch, but my laptop makes that quite hard and the computer still has years in it before I probably need to think about replacing it.

      I’ve got an asus rog and sometimes need the backlight on the keyboard. As far as I could tell, no one had figured out how to do it without the windows only asus made software.

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        I keep a small partition set aside in case I need it for settings, but I leave the keyboard on one setting all the time.

        Fedora by far has the best bootloader setup for modern bleeding edge hardware. Their Anaconda system (not related to Python’s “conda”) uses a shim key that is signed by Microsoft’s 3rd party UEFI key signing arrangement. Outside of the questionable philosophical implications around this arrangement and system, overall the setup is ideal for the end user. Fedora can on coexist with a windows partition easily, encrypt the entire thing and Windows can’t mess with anything on the Linux side. Personally, I haven’t ever actually used Windows since W8. My workstation router runs on a whitelist firewall so W11 is in a post internet age where it rightfully belongs. It might as well be a tab in the UEFI bootloader settings for all I care.

        Fedora also has a system that builds the Nvidia kernel module from scratch every time the Linux kernel is updated. Around half of the updates still require me to do a quick restart after initial boot to enable the Nvidia kernel module. It falls back to the open source alt driver and still works fine, but I do AI stuff and need the CUDA API, so I have to reboot to get that working once a week or two. Fedora really is quite easy now. I would use something like NIX, but the Anaconda system is unmatched and too good to give up. You will have secure boot locked all the time even if you can not register custom keys or do not care to set them up manually.

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          Oh, I don’t need the keyboard to be pretty. Just lit up at all which seems to be effective locked by asus.

          When I tried, I had put Ubuntu on it. That process seemed to go pretty good except the keyboard. Even got the WiFi working just fine. I may give fedora a try, but I’m way too lazy to switch back and forth between os’s depending on how dark the room I’m in is.

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            Have you considered learning how to type? (I know, kind of snarky) I don’t need to look at my keyboard or see my hands, there’s little bumps on the home keys and then you just type based on location.

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      Yeah, but linux breaks heavily modded Skyrim. Something about ubuntu or something breaks skse, and honestly I don’t care enough.

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        The true reason for Microsoft’s continued monopoly, and the reason behind its strategic acquisition of Starfield

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          I have to say, my computing life changed A LOT for the better when I stopped playing games on the PC back when the PS3 was out. I got so tired of Windows getting screwed up by various games and their anti-cheat crap. I think in 2023, it might make sense to separate out functions a little - used computers run Linux just fine and are cheeeap. So if you want a yar har, web browsing, e-mail processing, programming etc computer, do that on the more private / (to be better) OS and then have your game only computer for gaming.

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        someone is giving them money and rewarding the fuckery - and has been for several decades now.
        i wish the MS benefactors would at least make the payments conditional on improvement.

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          Yeah, all businesses that need to run proprietary software that only exists on windows.

          Good luck convincing your manager to use crossover/wine for your XRD machine.

          People who think people using windows do it voluntarily are so out of touch with the industry.

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      Arch users are never shaking those allegations. Are are aware that people use Tor for other things, right?

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    It’s funny that recently NetworkChuck uploaded video about darkweb where he installed tor on windows and now apparently many folks did the same.