Biden isn’t responsible for any of that though. The courts should have stopped Trump nothis oppenent in the election
edit: To all thinking Biden could or should have directly intervened to prevent Trump from running how do you think he can legally do so without being seen as a dictator?
Biden could have used an “official act” to prove a point. He’s old and could have made the sacrifice for the greater good since by the time the courts were done he is on his death bed. Would have been interesting to watch.
Be careful when you fight monsters. Biden was fucked either way if I’m being honest, I’d even bet a handful of cash that a prominent Dem, perhaps even Biden, gets merked within two years.
Being a poltical opposition shouldnt be a shield from consequences. Anyone else, he would have been labeled a terrorist and sent off to gitmo. But i guess US has always been a veil democracy anyway, so im not really suprised once the remaining illusions eroded away.
Because typically tax evasion is not handled by Congress. Surely you realized that it was really weird that Congress was looking into misdemeanor criminal violations.
A great deal of the things congress seems to investigate are stupid. Like the whole baseball and steroids thing. And most of the rest of their investigations are dog and pony shows.
I find it weird, yes. I guess I just don’t care about what’s weird or not anymore since weird actions have very real results.
its only going to get weirder. nobody on the left wants to be painted as the person who overstepped societal norms they shouldnt have in order to keep crazy in check.
Biden decided a longer than 4 year investigation without charges was the move. If smith filed charges on some, but not all the crimes Trump committed, courts would have had something to go off of to bar him from running.
Except it wouldn’t be, since he was not a political opponent after jan 6th. He also absolutely had a role, the idea the head of the executive branch doesn’t control the doj is and always has been an open lie. The existence of pot shops in legal states is the most obvious proof of that.
The elected leader in a democratic republic like the USA cannot stop candidates from running without becoming a dictator. This is intro level poli sci stuff.
There is a difference between permitting states to decriminalize cannabis and electoral interference.
They actually can, it’s called doing their job and charging the individual with high crimes against the US that they’ve committed. There’s no difference between a presidential candidate and a citizen.
No it isn’t. It is inappropriate for any candidate to utilize their office to prevent opposition. That is how authoritarian societies work not democratic republics. You should have been taught this in secondary/high school (ages 14-18 if you aren’t American).
How would you react if Trump had banned Bernie Sanders ir Biden from running in 2020 over perceived charges? Do you not see how easily misused that power would be?
The DOJ lead by the USAG should handle the prosecution without input from POTUS. That is what happened.
What you are suggesting is the kind of clownish fantasy that would get you laughed out of any courtroom. That’s how failed democracies work. That is not how systems should work. You are literally advocating corruption.
The norms you’re citing are all perfectly correct - but no democracy can survive if these norms are able to protect literal traitors. The fact that a coup was attempted should have resulted in swift and frightfully intense penalties for all involved. Unhung traitors poison republics.
Advocating for suspected criminals to face charges and go to trial in a timely manner is authoritarian.
Well that’s just absolutely ridiculous. I sincerely hope you understand this is why Trump won and why the US won’t exist by the end of the decade. Please don’t fuck up something so simple in your next country.
When the person being tried is a current and former opponent in an election yes it us and anyone suggesting otherwise needs remedial education in the difference between societies with rule of law and those without.
Biden isn’t responsible for any of that though. The courts should have stopped Trump nothis oppenent in the election
edit: To all thinking Biden could or should have directly intervened to prevent Trump from running how do you think he can legally do so without being seen as a dictator?
Biden could have used an “official act” to prove a point. He’s old and could have made the sacrifice for the greater good since by the time the courts were done he is on his death bed. Would have been interesting to watch.
The CIA has toppled democracies around the world. So its bullshit to say the president has his hands tied…
If a leader utilizes the intelligence agencies to put down opposition politicians then they are an authoritarian dictator. Biden isn’t that stupid.
Be careful when you fight monsters. Biden was fucked either way if I’m being honest, I’d even bet a handful of cash that a prominent Dem, perhaps even Biden, gets merked within two years.
Youre right. Should just let a traitor waltz in and be the authoritarian dictator. We’ll just put Biden in the history book beside Hindenburg.
So your solution to prevent an authoritarian dictatorship is for Biden to become an authoritarian dictator?
Te courts are the check against this.
The same courts that gave immunity to the president for “official acts”?
Yes the same courts that did that. POTUS shouldn’t be preventing the opposition from running candidates.
Being a poltical opposition shouldnt be a shield from consequences. Anyone else, he would have been labeled a terrorist and sent off to gitmo. But i guess US has always been a veil democracy anyway, so im not really suprised once the remaining illusions eroded away.
It isn’t a shield from consequences. The courts and DOJ were prosecuting him.
There is NO situation where elected officials should be deciding who can oppose them in a democratic electoral system.
by not giving a shit about optics in the same way he bailed his son out. who cares if people see him as a dictator?
Pardoning his son from witch-hunts by the GOP isn’t dictatorial.Legally preventing the opposition from running candidates is absolutely dictatorial.
pardoning witch hunts? hunter avoided paying taxes and got caught. why should he not pay the price for his crime?
Because typically tax evasion is not handled by Congress. Surely you realized that it was really weird that Congress was looking into misdemeanor criminal violations.
A great deal of the things congress seems to investigate are stupid. Like the whole baseball and steroids thing. And most of the rest of their investigations are dog and pony shows.
I find it weird, yes. I guess I just don’t care about what’s weird or not anymore since weird actions have very real results.
its only going to get weirder. nobody on the left wants to be painted as the person who overstepped societal norms they shouldnt have in order to keep crazy in check.
oh well! what are ya gonna do lol
Biden decided a longer than 4 year investigation without charges was the move. If smith filed charges on some, but not all the crimes Trump committed, courts would have had something to go off of to bar him from running.
Biden had no role in that investigation as it would be extremely inappropriate for him to do so.
Except it wouldn’t be, since he was not a political opponent after jan 6th. He also absolutely had a role, the idea the head of the executive branch doesn’t control the doj is and always has been an open lie. The existence of pot shops in legal states is the most obvious proof of that.
The elected leader in a democratic republic like the USA cannot stop candidates from running without becoming a dictator. This is intro level poli sci stuff.
There is a difference between permitting states to decriminalize cannabis and electoral interference.
They actually can, it’s called doing their job and charging the individual with high crimes against the US that they’ve committed. There’s no difference between a presidential candidate and a citizen.
No it isn’t. It is inappropriate for any candidate to utilize their office to prevent opposition. That is how authoritarian societies work not democratic republics. You should have been taught this in secondary/high school (ages 14-18 if you aren’t American).
How would you react if Trump had banned Bernie Sanders ir Biden from running in 2020 over perceived charges? Do you not see how easily misused that power would be?
The DOJ lead by the USAG should handle the prosecution without input from POTUS. That is what happened.
What you are suggesting is the kind of clownish fantasy that would get you laughed out of any courtroom. That’s how failed democracies work. That is not how systems should work. You are literally advocating corruption.
The norms you’re citing are all perfectly correct - but no democracy can survive if these norms are able to protect literal traitors. The fact that a coup was attempted should have resulted in swift and frightfully intense penalties for all involved. Unhung traitors poison republics.
Yes, and the list of people who dropped the ball on that prosecution does not and cannot include his political opponent.
Advocating for suspected criminals to face charges and go to trial in a timely manner is authoritarian.
Well that’s just absolutely ridiculous. I sincerely hope you understand this is why Trump won and why the US won’t exist by the end of the decade. Please don’t fuck up something so simple in your next country.
When the person being tried is a current and former opponent in an election yes it us and anyone suggesting otherwise needs remedial education in the difference between societies with rule of law and those without.
You’re in a tech job, aren’t you?