• WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social
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    I feel like the vast majority of LGBTQIA2S people would be upset by zoophiles and pedophiles* feeling included by LGBTQ+. Personally I don’t care if they’re included or not. They’re definitely GSRMs imo, so I don’t think they need to be included in LGBTQ+. But a lot of them have the same issues of realizing their sexual attraction is not like their peers at some point and dealing with the fear of ostracization and violence if people found out what thoughts they have.

    *Not to be confused with people who practice bestiality or child molestation.

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      1 year ago

      How did we get here? What a bad take. Consent is obviously required, it’s that simple.

      Neither children nor animals can consent therefore they are not welcome in any shape or form. This also excludes rape and other forms of abuse from any LGBTQ+ space/group/community.

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          You did not, you said that you do not mind or care. No one wants them there except the pedophiles themselves.

          The people have problems, but they need other help than acceptance. It does not work, it is abuse and the LGBTQ+ community always clearly distanced themselves from them.

          Implying any connection at all is dishonest and a huge disservice to all people under the LGBTQ+ umbrella. Hence it is a terrible take.

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            To quote myself:

            *Not to be confused with people who practice bestiality or child molestation.

            I don’t care if people eventually include them or not. I’m not backtracking on that. The two statements aren’t contradictory. I’m also not saying I want that (I don’t). Its simply not something I care about.

            But sexual or romantic attraction to a specific group of people certainly has more to do with other categories of sexual or romanic attraction to specific groups of people than preference for BDSM. And even attraction to a non-human group of beings is a more similar. I’m not implying a connection though. My point is that they are separate and there’s even less reason to make kink a letter in the LGBTQ+.

            No one wants them there except the pedophiles themselves.

            I think most of them consider themselves separate as well. Its just homophobes who want to group them together.

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      Bad take. No one thinks these people are part of the comm in any way shape or form outside someone terminally online who has never seen grass