• ForgetReddit@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Two steps forward, one step back, so it’s a step forward, yet he “fucked you all”?

    If one side is a bigoted regime and the other side is speaking out against them, and you’re against the side speaking out against them, what does that make you?

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      1 year ago

      Maybe listen to people from the actual country that understand the political conditions? They know what is useful and what is not in their current situation better than you do.

      This isn’t a game where shouting for one side the loudest and most often magically wins, unlike americans like to believe. Doing so at the wrong time gets you cracked down upon, or worse it gets lgbt people killed.

      People from the west go to these countries and make these statements completely oblivious to the fact that they’re harming the local efforts of lgbt activists within the country who are acting more strategically with a better understanding of what will and will not advance their position in the current climate they have.

      • Here_in_Malaysia@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I’m just dreading what the old bags in Parliament are gonna follow this up with. I hope they’re too lazy to do anything. Just this once.

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          1 year ago

          Depends on whether they’ve got something else to distract them really same as always. Could go either way. Anything involving their money could take away their focus.

      • scytale@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Just wanted to note that this happened in Malaysia, not Indonesia. I’m not arguing with you, just wanted to point it out.

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        1 year ago

        Because nothing can change religious fanatics, especially those in positions of power. The only way would be for other countries to take actions against the nations with such backwards governments (trade bans etc.) but seeing as Turkey and Hungary are allowed to stay in the EU I’m not hopeful this will ever happen.

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          *Turkey is not a EU-Memberstate and is no longer considered to be a candidate because of its shitty politics