• UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    In 1955… Most people personally knew someone aflicted with polio. They knew how bad it was

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      21 hours ago

      In Appalachia, it was unlikely to not know someone on a vent or dead from Covid, yet…

      • hperrin@lemmy.ca
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        20 hours ago

        Fox News tells you not to believe your eyes, and conservatives trust Fox News more than their own eyes.

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          Why wouldn’t they trust Fox News over their own eyes? Fox News is the most trusted name in news. At least that’s what the viewers get told when they come back from commercial breaks. It’s not like Fox would lie to them. They are the most trusted name in news after all…

          Circular logic at its finest.

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          13 hours ago

          I didn’t see anybody die of covid. 2 relatives died after getting the shot tho, of apparently unrelated cause.

          Tell me what to believe.

          • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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            5 hours ago

            Ugh, that’s rough.

            That being said, like you said, people die. I can’t imagine how shitty it feels but given how the COVID vaccine is the most-empirically-tested-and-documented vaccine and as a result of it’s absolutely insane number uses uses (beaten only by the likes of Aspirin and Ibuprofene and so on), it’s hopefully understandable that we not only know but know with beyond-certainty that it’s side effects are insanely rare and extremely mild.

            The reason people can extremely rarely die from a vaccination (and then it happens ~directly after getting it!) is a reaction to the actual injection, not what you get injected with. This has happened in the past, it’s just extremely improbably. There’s also the chance of an allergic reaction but for most healthy adults we would know about this as COVID would be far from our first vaccine we’re getting, and with multiple billions of uses, we know that the COVID vaccine as a whole has no allergic interactions beyond standard ones.

            That’s not to downplay your loss, sorry if it sounds that way - english is not my primary language. Not at all. Just trying to illustrate how impossible it’d be for COVID to have a lethal effect without millions~tens-of-millions showing this, simply because we have such an amount of data points.

            That is to say, someobody could get a vaccine shot, then go home, and fry themselves an egg in a new pan they bought on the way home. There is a multiple orders of magnitude higher chance of poisoning from the pan because of an undocumented chemical in the coating than from the shot. We don’t have that much data on any particular pan, not even IKEA ones. Orders of magnitude less data.

              • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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                Hrm, the full ERs were easy to find though, news were coming up multiple times a day which hospital is rejecting patients and of doctors and nurses collapsing from 40-80 hours continuous work.

                Mass graves… trickier. We tend to not want to be faced with mass deaths in general, which is why we tend to not glorify this as much as we do personal death. They were in the news though, and of course travel to any poorer country and they were/are easy to find.

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                  5 hours ago

                  We were discussing “seeing with your own eyes” vs “being told what to think by various propaganda organs”. The latter being less good.

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                    5 hours ago

                    The scenario you’ve put folks in here is one where you had your eyes closed while we all watched.

                    Now you’re saying you didn’t see what we all saw while you had your eyes closed.

                    You willfully had your eyes closed and refused to see and now you’re being contrarian and difficult based on that.

                    You prove it didn’t happen.

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                10 hours ago

                You’re not alone. I also didn’t see either of those things, or know anyone that died from it.

                I’m also not denying those things exist, I’m simply affirming your reality.

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        I knew three people who died from COVID and another after they recovered from COVID, unfortunately unless it’s their direct family they would just assume ‘theyre just making it all out to be covid’

        I assume most people would blame social media for this, but here’s my c/unpopularopinions take, it’s inevitable with a profit oriented news platform, where they try to scaremonger in both ‘we are all going to die’ and ‘government is putting chips in our bloodstream’ directions

        In other nations, unless a blunder by government policy, they werent as affected by the anti vaccine shenanigans, even though they were as affected by social media and such

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          And then there’s my ex who after COVID took nearly 9 months (!) to get normal use of their lung again. Fuck people who go all “COVID is bullshit”.

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          Dude my grandmother died of Covid in August pf 2020, and yet my father and his sister who is a nurse and gave her the dease arge to this day weather covid is bullshit or not. AT HER funeral they argued about mask mandates. Maga brains will watch millions die from covid, and polio and still call it fake news.