• ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Why are we pretending that this is just an inherent quality that needs to be taught out rather than a serious deviation from the norm? “Teach people not to murder” yeah, uh, we do, and unreasonable people still murder.

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      1 year ago

      Also if your only solution is “everybody SHOULD do X”, you’ve already failed. Reality is that we are so far away from everybody doing the “right” thing that refusing to take any basic precautions is just setting somebody up to get hurt.

      It’s like telling people they don’t need to bring bear spray on hikes in a bear infested wood because the bears shouldn’t try to hurt you.

      • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        It’s disingenuous to compare a wild animal without reasoning ability with a male human.

        If you have the impulse control of a bear, there is something medically wrong with you.

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          I am pretty sure there are people with the impulse control of a bear. These are probably not the same people discussing these matters over Internet

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          1 year ago

          Yes, and there are plenty of people out there with things medically wrong with them which will cause them to act out violently. It’s only wise to prepare for a potential run-in with one of these people. Whether they “should” act out against you or not.

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      1 year ago

      Unreasonable murderers are not the norm tho.

      Men thinking they can control women is far more common, and the cure for that is parents teaching their kids that shit won’t be tolerated.

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        Yeah, but I don’t trust other parents to actually teach their sons that. So I will still have to teach my daughters to defend themselves against those kind of people.

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        1 year ago

        Lol. Yeah. I was more comparing murder to rape. I don’t know where you live, but where I live, men raping women is not normalized.