An estimated 140 women and girls across the world die at the hands of their partner or family member every day, according to new global estimates on femicide by the UN.

The report by UN Women found 85,000 women and girls were killed intentionally by men in 2023, with 60% (51,100) of these deaths committed by someone close to the victim. The organisation said its figures showed that, globally, the most dangerous place for a woman to be was in her home, where the majority of women die at the hands of men.

Nyaradzayi Gumbonzvanda, UN Women’s deputy executive director, said: “What the data is telling us is that it is the private and domestic sphere’s of women’s lives, where they should be safest, that so many of them are being exposed to deadly violence.

  • pixxelkick@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    What is incoherent is someone being like “here’s factual data showing 60% of women have been sexually assaulted” and your response is “okay but 60% of women are not ACTIVELY being sexually assaulted”

    What part about this do you not understand. It’s not complicated.

    There’s a huge difference in “how many people have had their home burn down” vs “how many homes are at risk of burning down right now” and the latter was what was being originally discussed

    They are entirely different conversations.

    When the current actuall convo is about “what’s the risk of your house burning down right now” and the answer is “quite low”, but then you butt in and go “nuh uh, like 60% of people have had a house burn down in the past” you sound ridiculous.

    You in that moment demonstrate either:

    1. You don’t understand how stats work and why your number is irrelevant to the convo. Or
    2. You do know how they work, and thus are being actively disingenuous.

    Either way, go figure yourself out. Your numbers aren’t relevant here, go either find the numbers that are relevant, or at least stop muddling the waters with bad math.

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      Omg are you seriously coming here to talk over me while I’m spreading awareness about how prolific gender based violence against women is? Who tf are you? We aren’t in a fucking stats classroom or whatever you think this is. The absolute and utter detachment you seem to have towards a subject like systemic violence against women is honestly insane. There exists no rule stating that I can’t bring up another data set in a discussion on violence against women. Literally not one human being has ever said that. It is also absolutely relevant data to the topic at hand. And then people like you wonder why we feel like men don’t care about how we are bring abused. You’d rather pedantically talk over me about the classification of data sets then actually meaningfully engage with the fact that women are so likely to be physically or sexually abused by men that 60% of women in a specific age range of 15 to 24 have experienced that. Which is saying nothing of girls under 15 and women 25 and over.

      If 60% of the population of women will be sexually or physically abused by male intimate partners then OVER HALF of women are victims of intimate partner violence. That is the takeaway. If you have no interest in talking about this, then go do something else with your time.

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        You interjected in the discussion with non-relevant stats, and are now getting mad when called out on it.

        Your stats you are presenting aren’t relevant to the post I made. Deal with it and go throw a tantrum somewhere else. I posted first, you are trying to talk over me

        Go find an echo chamber to complain to instead of cluttering up discussions with irrelevance and throwing tantrums while people are trying to talk about the actual facts that are relevant.

        You should be ashamed of yourself.

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          Yeah youre right a post about femicide by intimate partners has no connection with rates of intimate partner violence.

          I also didnt respond to your fucking post with those stats I was responding to another commenter. Everything else I said stands.

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            Historical odds of experiencing violence in the past has no relevance to discrete odds of danger now, correct.

            Glad you finally figured it out.

            Having experienced food poisoning 5 years ago has zero relevance to the question of “is this current dish I am about to eat safe?”

            The latter is the discussion you are insisting on butting in on and trying to steer the convo towards the former.

            No one gives a shit about your food poisoning from 5 years ago Karen, we are discussing if this dish right now is poisoned or not.

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              Are you ever going to respond to the “once you’ve been sexually or physically assaulted by an intimate partner you are a victim from then on” ?

              I’m a rape victim. And I have been abused by multiple male partners. And I have had my life threatened by a male intimate partner. The 60% figure isn’t even taking into account people who have been abused multiple times by seperate men (most of them).

              Calling me a Karen is incredible. You don’t own this forum. I am absolutely allowed to talk about this here no matter what you think about it.

              If you’re a woman dating men, you categorically do always need to be concerned about the possibility that you will experience physical and sexual violence from male intimate partners. Women are murdered every day in acts of intimate partner violence. Not to mention having to be concerned about gender based violence in general, in the workplace and in public spaces. If you have some gripe with that assessment then you are fundamentally misunderstanding how women are made to constantly assess their own safety. You are dramatically underestimating how prevalent this kind of violence against us is.

              You do not determine the relative threat of being raped or beaten by men by how many women are presently being subjected to those things. You do so based on your own experiences with male violence and the experiences of other women both ones you know do and dont know personally. These statistics are not influencing any woman’s relative fear of men. They are purely there to illustrate the extent of violence against us.

              If you don’t want to talk about this then again, that’s fine, go do something else. I came here to talk about it and I am absolutely allowed to do so.