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lmao:
Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America. . If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.
Edit: source page: https://www.apologize.lol/
How does that even work? I’m not in USA so I can’t even access that page.
Musk put up a PAC that pays non-voters in swing states $47 to register to vote (because the next president will be #47). I’m not sure if he has restrictions on his thing, like maybe you have to live in a red area in a swing state or something. Anyway, I think CAH has set it up so you can redirect that money to them instead.
Last I heard, you weren’t supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that, but trump was filmed giving out hundred dollar bills last week, musk is handing out money for registering, and now this. I’m not sure what’s going on except everything’s really fucked.
you weren’t supposed to give people money to register to vote or promising to vote or anything like that
It’s also incredibly stupid. You have no way of tracking who someone votes for once they’re in the booth. If I was in a swing state I’d be happy to take musk’s cash and vote for Harris like I was always going to do.
This is why it’s (sort of?) legal to do what they’re doing: paying for someone to vote a specific way is illegal for sure. And paying someone to vote is also illegal. But I believe that
paying someone to REGISTER to vote is legal so long as you do not actively restrict who can participate.It’s also okay to pay someone to write down a plan on HOW to vote, and to pay someone to write shit on the internet.So yeah. It’s very borderline.
But I think it technically passes musterNope, I was wrong. Paying people to register is still illegal
Btw, this thread is a prime example of how every community on lemmy is about US politics.
In the past month this community has had 3 other posts:
“What game did this component come from”,
a post that’s just a link to the Essen page with no comments,
and a post CAH suing Elon.I’m not going to be upset when this community isn’t being used for boardgames anyway. Maybe this will remind people that this community exists and encourage more posts.
Or it is news about the publisher of a popular (outside of the hobby) game.
I’m all in favor of getting people to vote, but it seems out of line to pay people to vote (or at least claim they’re going to vote) for your party. Even if the other guys did it first, an eye for an eye makes the world blind.
They say it shouldn’t be legal. The first answer on the FAQ:
"Whats happening?
Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!"
The entire FAQ is worth a read, it’s pretty funny
I’m slowly getting the joke.
All of this is actually legal, so they’re making sure it becomes illegal. But I suspect they’ll go bankrupt before that, lol
They’re trying to buy votes? How the hell do they think that’s going to end?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597
Seriously, how the hell do they think it’s going to end for them?
Nothing is happening to musk for doing it
Since you seem to enjoy legalese, please visit the site’s terms of service and read the rules for the promotion to learn why that’s not what is happening here.
Oh, it’s worse
Copy/pasted quotes from the site.
Do you know people who don’t vote?
It’s time for you to tell us who they are, especially if they’re in Wisconsin, Michigan, >Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Nevada, or Georgia. Don’t worry, we’ll just send one >friendly email about how they can get paid to apologize.
So, you know, fuck them right in the ass for that.
But, there’s this:
Who qualifies to get paid?
Any eligible voter who didn’t vote last time qualifies. But only blue-leaning people in swing states will get a BIG payment. (italics for emphasis mine).
Idgaf what they put in their tos, this shit will be what gets focussed on.
Maybe they skate by on a weak loophole, maybe they don’t. But it’s fucking stupid, and it’s dangerous when there’s already going to be a “voting fraud” storm of bullshit if trump loses.
This entire publicity gimmick is beyond stupid, and if it backfires, it’s going to be the rest of us that pay the price
You seem to have missed the context that this is a counter protest to multiple similar schemes on the republican side including one by Elon Musk thay they specifically mention. It’s meant to make you think ‘wait this is illegal, right?’.
I didn’t miss anything.
It’s a horrible idea, and it isn’t going to do a damn thing to counter anything the Republicans or musk do.
They are very clearly angling to make it illegal in the medium/long term. You might be familiar with similar efforts by the Satanic Temple. You take what the other side are doing to the logical extreme or would make the average person think “that’s very weird” and ask “is this OK? Gonna do something about it?”.
If you re-read OP you will see they do not ask for votes anywhere.
I suspect that’s what they’ll claim, but I can about damn guarantee it would come down to a jury deciding, and we all know damm good and well the GOP isn’t afraid of suing people
and that would be a win, because Musk is essentially doing the same shit.
edit for clarity: the win would be setting a precedence so musk or anyone else would be open to suit/prosecution too.
I really hope you don’t practice law
I certainly hoped you weren’t a dick, but we don’t always get what we want, do we?
If you encounter a dick online: that person was a dick.
If everyone you encounter online is a dick: you’re the dick.
That one person was a dick, until you came along, bringing the total across the entire thread to two.
*three
