Personally, the game I run the most is Shadowrun. Managed to transition my DnD group to Pathfinder 2e and it is great. Pathfinder is DnD but so much better.
Classic Pathfinder basically is 3.5e, so I would hope that they would want to switch just to get away from Hasbro. Pathfinder 2e is basically a good version of what D&D5e wants to be, but they didn’t test out the rules well enough to do. It’s fairly simple and easy, without tons of contradictions. D&D3.5 and Pathfinder are great too though, but most modern TTRPG players want the simplicity of the modern systems.
so I would hope that they would want to switch just to get away from Hasbro.
I’ll say this as a relatively newer player, I don’t care about the company that made the game when I’m trying to find something to play. As a player in 2 campaigns and a baby-DM for another, I think the only money I’ve paid that hasbro would get anything from is a Nolzurs mini I bought before I started making my own.
I’m not saying that people shouldn’t look outside of DND for other RPGs, there’s a ton of other great platforms out there, just trying to offer some perspective. I don’t think the average DnD player really gives a crap about Hasbro (again, not saying they shouldn’t care, just that they don’t), let alone have a desire to change platforms based on the manufacturer.
Players playing 3.5e are not average players. They’ve invested a lot of time into the game already. They should care what the company does, especially considering what they did after 3.5 that they should remember.
You probably will care who makes the system soon though because Hasbro is going to require subscriptions for everything. It’s going to sucks. You can always pirate the PDFs, but just play a better system. D&D 5e is so janky and you have to remember so many exceptions. Pathfinder 2e just works how you’d expect.
I see, I missed that tidbit of the conversation. My bad.
I don’t see myself caring if Hasbro tries to require a “subscription”. Like I said, none of the gaming I’ve done with DND has been through any legitimate channels they offer, I’ve got the PHB and DM guide on my phone and all the games I’ve played are either homebrew or stolen PDFs that work exactly the same way a “subscription” would.
I have been interested in checking out Pathfinder, but honestly don’t care enough to push my friend group towards it. If anyone approaches me with a PF game I’ll join, but not going out of my way to find one.
Personally, the game I run the most is Shadowrun. Managed to transition my DnD group to Pathfinder 2e and it is great. Pathfinder is DnD but so much better.
My group plays 3.5e and I’ve become That Guy that talks about Pathfinder every session to exactly zero avail 🥲
Classic Pathfinder basically is 3.5e, so I would hope that they would want to switch just to get away from Hasbro. Pathfinder 2e is basically a good version of what D&D5e wants to be, but they didn’t test out the rules well enough to do. It’s fairly simple and easy, without tons of contradictions. D&D3.5 and Pathfinder are great too though, but most modern TTRPG players want the simplicity of the modern systems.
If you play 3.5e, Hasbro shouldn’t be affecting you. You’d be using old books and PDFs anyway and Hasbro has no control over that.
I’ll say this as a relatively newer player, I don’t care about the company that made the game when I’m trying to find something to play. As a player in 2 campaigns and a baby-DM for another, I think the only money I’ve paid that hasbro would get anything from is a Nolzurs mini I bought before I started making my own.
I’m not saying that people shouldn’t look outside of DND for other RPGs, there’s a ton of other great platforms out there, just trying to offer some perspective. I don’t think the average DnD player really gives a crap about Hasbro (again, not saying they shouldn’t care, just that they don’t), let alone have a desire to change platforms based on the manufacturer.
Players playing 3.5e are not average players. They’ve invested a lot of time into the game already. They should care what the company does, especially considering what they did after 3.5 that they should remember.
You probably will care who makes the system soon though because Hasbro is going to require subscriptions for everything. It’s going to sucks. You can always pirate the PDFs, but just play a better system. D&D 5e is so janky and you have to remember so many exceptions. Pathfinder 2e just works how you’d expect.
I see, I missed that tidbit of the conversation. My bad.
I don’t see myself caring if Hasbro tries to require a “subscription”. Like I said, none of the gaming I’ve done with DND has been through any legitimate channels they offer, I’ve got the PHB and DM guide on my phone and all the games I’ve played are either homebrew or stolen PDFs that work exactly the same way a “subscription” would.
I have been interested in checking out Pathfinder, but honestly don’t care enough to push my friend group towards it. If anyone approaches me with a PF game I’ll join, but not going out of my way to find one.
Pathfinder is the vegan crossfit of the ttrpg world.