They’re not nerds. They’re geeks at worst and really just programmers.

The reason to vote is a civic duty and making your life better/society better.

Fuck people waiting for some saint to come.

That’s because he is.

Not that it isn’t true that theyre getting pounded but the headline is nothing more than the economist saying that.

There’s scant evidence any of them are actually aware and cognizant of it. At least per what’s in the transcript.

Yep, all theater.

Stumbled across this the other day. Very interesting and a ton of gestures. Debating using it more. It is very lightweight and no frills appearance wise.

That said, the problem is Republican voters never hold their elected officials accountable. Ever.

I don’t know? Results?

I want more progressive policies. Run em. But just don’t be surprised if they get slaughtered.

I think more than progressive policies people want younger people.

But to Anyone down voting, great. I simply presented raw facts.

To bolster your point, a true progressive ran in 2018 in west Virginia- Paula Swearengin. She challenged Joe Manchin in the primary and lost 70-30.

She then won the Democratic primary in 2020 for Senate and went on to lose in the general 70/27 (other votes to the libertarian.)

People really need to understand that while Zohran and AOC are great there isn’t some kind of silver bullet with progressivism across the country.

I mean, we shouldn’t have to pay for a damn thing really after 3 decades but yes, somehow 350 million. And you know in ten years they’ll just want a whole new stadium anyway. All on our dime of course.

I am not excusing 2016…at all. But I am excusing politics because…you know, that’s politics. Do I like it? No. But it is what politics is. It’s messy, dirty. Has been forever and probably will continue to be.

And that’s Warren’s deal then. She was the main competitor on the progressive flank. If you can’t win the primary, you don’t get to go to the general. Whose fault is that? Why could Bernie not convince her to go out? Why could he not win out?

And if somehow the Democratic party says “do not vote for the winner of our primary” and throw in behind Cuomo then sure, I’ll believe you.

But until then you’re still just fantasizing about everyone being against you. Note that a lot of the people you think are so against you- you’re going to need their votes in November. So maybe don’t go all cold war over nothing.

You guys are so damn eager to find the “enemy” in the “establishment” that you can’t just be happy your guy won and work to get him elected. No instead you gotta bring up BS (like Bernie not winning 2020). Good luck. I honestly hope Zohran wins. But the funny thing is- you’re acting JUST LIKE the “establishment” dems who can’t wait to bring the pitchforks up against people that should be your allies instead of your real enemy- more conservative bullshit.

“Less discussed is the all-out media campaign, waged primarily on the cable news channels most watched and trusted by the older voters who vote disproportionately in Democratic primaries,”

Newsflash people- this is POLITICS. This is no different than young podcasters on tiktok or whatever the hell giving air time to Bernie and not Biden, etc. Hell, it’s no different than Jacobin, which I do read occasionally, giving WAY more preference and bias to more left wing candidates. If you can’t see that is two sides of the same coin then I don’t know what to tell you.

He LOST. Get over it.

Again, 2016 he definitely got fucked and I’d find it hard to believe anyone could not believe that. But you’re upset at political maneuvering which is a thing in ANY race. Again, he could’ve made different decisions AND he could’ve won if the young people he was relying on bothered to show up. I mean- it says it right in that quote. “The older voters who disproportionately vote in primaries.” Why? Why can’t young people go out and vote?

Zohran just won. Know why? Fully 1/4 of voters had not voted in a primary in the decade and a half prior to this one. You should be more pissed that people decided Biden was the right call than normal political operations.

Do I want all that money in politics? No. But I also know it’s what it is and you gotta win like Zohran did and stop blaming anyone and everyone else for your faults. Bernie was a great candidate. So why in the fuck after he got screwed in 2016 and we saw the complete shitshow that was Trump’s first term did people not come out in droves to vote for Bernie? That has jack to do with being ratfucked and everything to do with primary voters either not showing up or deciding he wasn’t the choice compared to Biden.

I’ll concede some of it now.

But you understand “donors” are just rich fucks. Until the NYC/NY Democrat party says “don’t vote for him” then it’s really irrelevant.

That said, Hochul, Gillen, etc. can’t do the simplest gd thing like most other Democrats. No one says you have to endorse. I doubt AOC would “endorse” Connor Lamb if he won the PA primary. But a pithy “The people have spoken who they want their rep to be and I hope the Democratic candidate wins in November.”

It’s amazing how anyone center to left can find so much time to dither and argue amongst themselves instead of realizing the bigger picture which is to win power and do good things with it. JFC.

I don’t think it’s that people don’t care. I do- but you have compromises with no matter what you pick. I think it’s fair to say that people just rate a jack higher than fairly sourced components.

And “raison d’etre” rings hollow when they remove the jack and claim to be environmentally conscious. I have headphones from over a decade ago and shouldn’t have to go buy new BT ones or a dongle, etc. Not very “green” ya know.

Oh so you mean he couldn’t play politics? Why did he and Warren not make a deal where one would drop out and the other take up a position in their cabinet or something?

You’re mad at politics. There was no reason he couldn’t have done the same and gotten the win.

Again- HE DID NOT WIN. Sucks because I got off my ass and voted for him but bringing up 2020 is just sour grapes and makes you look like nothing but a whiner.

Cheap moto phone that can do that and calyx. Linux phone, etc.

Pixel if you want graphene now that youre “forced” into no jack.

One time. He simply didn’t get the votes second time around.

Other than the one Gillen the rest are nothing comments. No one says they won’t back him besides that. And rich people are going to back anyone who will let them keep their largesse. They donated to Democrats because they know a Republican isn’t going to win in NYC.

This is a pretty BS article that is painting things that aren’t really there. At least not to any great extent.

Why would Anyone do anything productive like that with that many people over a WhatsApp group

Like I’ve said before- their market is small enough they should be trying to get everyone they can to buy it.