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  • Ok, thank you.

    Now we can have a dialogue.

    Yeah, her murder, because it was a murder, is fucked up and should be a huge deal.

    I haven’t seen those images, and I don’t want to. Does the OP article make me believe those images exist? Not entirely, Like you said, it is difficult to trust governments that have a history of creating their own truth.

    But I do believe that Hamas is capable of doing that. I do believe that the dynamics of the situation makes it incredibly easy for Israel to be a fascist oppressor and for Hamas to abuse that and do horrific things and then hide behind Palestinians.

    Then Hamas gets to justify more violence when Israel does more fucked up stuff, trying to get at Hamas.

    Any actual peace processes, over the last 50 years, has been constantly undermined and ruined due to militant Muslim groups, like Hamas, who refuse any compromise.

    So what happens? Well the Israelis also got radicalized, and now they don’t really give a shit about the outside world either.

    The Palestinians are stuck in the middle.













  • Wait, what!? How would this be a “huge strategic gain for the U.S.”?

    You could argue that it’s a proxy conflict between the West and radicalized Muslim states. Sure. I would even listen to a discussion about rich elites using governments to keep areas destabilized in order to further their own fortunes.

    But saying that somehow the U.S. would gain a huge strategic advantage is reaching.

    What would the strategic value be? Is there oil there? Would they put a base there that somehow had more capabilities than facilities they already have in the area?

    This isn’t 5D chess. This is two cultures that refuse to get along, being supported openly, and behind closed doors by larger nations.

    Israel hates it’s neighboring countries for good reason. Those countries hate Israel for good reasons.

    The human rights violations are disgusting and I support the freeing of Palestine.

    But when you do shit like what the Hamas just did, you destroy any sort of moral high ground you may have had. Two wrongs don’t make a right, no matter what your culture is.

    You can’t divorce Hamas from Palestine either, like some commentors are trying to do.

    Tribalism at its worst.




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    People who agree with 2 don’t realize that they were those kids too and think that somehow there are kids somewhere that behave nicely because of perfect parenting.

    Nope, most likely you just got to witness those kids on a bad day.

    Save your judgement for yourself.