Those people are providing a living for themselves, all I’m saying is that working with someone on a project where they’re very involved and you’re all passionate about it and you don’t have to balance that with another full time job is nice.

Until the workers come out and say that they feel that JT is exploiting them or using them this whole relationship seems to be fine compared to the alternative of working for a company that directly seeks to exploit you to the maximum extent.

I’m sure cooperative ownership isn’t out of the question for this project, but there isn’t really much money in communist propaganda so it’s amazing that they’re able to support 4 salaries doing it.

If he’s managing to provide a living for 4 people and those people are in a situation where they don’t feel exploited, I don’t really see how what he’s doing is why different than say Pravda pre-revolution, or any number of other communist newspapers/periodicals over the years that until the revolution had to support their workers through wages and sales of a product.

I mean, Marx was only able to write Capital because Engles had money from profiting off the labor of others. How is this any worse than that?

I love it, that’s insane

This is how it’s supposed to look

I was just summarizing for the people who are too lazy to go read anything and will just stop here

The conversation was you linking a Wikipedia article, I was at least hoping you’d link like a book or something. Like we could have a discussion if you were trying to argue against authoritarianiam as defined by say Bakunin or some other anarchist thinker.

Then I could respond with On Authority which argues that authority is a natural consequence of any organization and calling something authoritarian just means you’re saying that it’s a system that is able to successfully reproduce itself.

You could also try to link “authoritarianism” to fascism, but again that is pointless because there’s already a term for fascism, which is Fascism.

POTUS -> TUSP (The United States President)

CIA -> CAI (Central Agency of Intelligence)

FBI -> BFI (Bureau of Federal Investigation)

It’s fun to just change around acronyms for official governing bodies. I’m gonna go edit Wikipedia to include these as common abbreviations too

Socialism: Utopian and Scientific is required reading for any communist

All states are authoritarian. Where do you think all the authority comes from?

A state having authority isn’t always a bad thing though, the current state is really great if you’re a white male property owner!

And those guys won’t be too happy if you take that state away from them, so whatever comes next would need the authority to resist that counter-revolution.

But that’s authoritarian, so we should just let them take back over and keep doing the authoritarianism that supports their interests.

I have yet to actually see a big emote, as the hex bear frontend keeps them small, but this comment out of context is great

Primitive accumulation is a bad term. It works if you’ve read the theory behind it, but otherwise it sounds like someone saving up a bunch of money then starting a successful business compared to what it is which was colonial genocide, enclosure of the commons, and mass starvation as people were ripped from agricultural labor and cast into the factories and mines to work for feudal lords turned industrial capitalists.

I think it’s someone who does a lot of nitrous oxide at Phish concerts

There are many of them!

I’m also very interested in a more clear definition of what this instance considers “Kremlin propaganda”

Is posting Russian music Kremlin Propaganda? Is linking an RT news article Kremlin propaganda? Is Al Jazeera Kremlin propaganda? Is there a list of allowed/non-Kremlin propaganda news sources we need to use?

Is the Kremlin propaganda limited to the past 20 years or is posting old Soviet art and literature also considered Kremlin propaganda? Is posting articles from Seymour Hersch Kremlin propaganda? Is posting Blowback podcast episodes Kremlin propaganda?

Can I share opinions on the works of Lenin and Marx or is socialist literature that came out of the Russian revolution also considered Kremlin propaganda?

This term is incredibly broad and not very useful unless you’re being explicitly anti-communist or are being xenophobic towards Russians.

I understand the sentiment “no propaganda”, but you also never clarified if posting Western propaganda is also taboo. Can I post NPR and Federalist articles? Can I share stuff from BBC and the Economist? Am I allowed to share an NBC story sponsored by Lockheed Martin about the new high tech MANPADS the US is sending to Ukraine?

I just want some clear examples of what is considered propaganda and what the lines on this are.

more specifically I consider the USA (varying by state and location) to be pretty authoritarian in a lot of ways, though they have decent press freedom (even if there are pretty severe issues with copyright and larger media conglomerates being owned by investment corpos), which is kind of an anomaly given many other things like drug laws and police militarisation and such :/ (many other things too)

Damn, you’re like 90% of the way there, but you still only see the trees.

US has no freedom of the press because all media is privately owned and even state media is privately financed. The entire 4th estate is literally just an appendage of the ruling class. Freedom of the press isn’t private ownership of the press, it’s independence and democratic oversight over the press, something that exists in no capacity in America.

In the US you have freedom to purchase the press

I’m so glad Hexbear exists and we have a zero tolerance policy for vaushite pedophiles.

Your distinction really has no meaning when there are places in China where people can be openly LGBTQ same as America with the US being more actively hostile to people in most places.

I’m fine with the use of the term authoritarian if it has actual meaning, but the way it’s used here it’s totally context less unless you just assume whoever is saying it is saying it as a stand in for “not a Western liberal democracy”.

A thing which actually cheapens a term which was meant primarily to refer to fascist dictatorships and feudal dictatorships.

An absolute disgrace can you believe it? They’re coming for me because I’m the best they’re scared of me. Who wouldn’t be scared of me I’m a scary guy not as scary as those North Korean boarder guards but I’m a scary guy

It’s not crime if your collar is white

But reading through these I think that’s because Ive always defined myself as a “liberal” but I think I just conflated that word with “left”

Based off a lot of what I read here, I actually am considering joining the instance because I do agree with the sentiments and I do want to educate myself beyond what I’ve been taught in the very flawed US public school system and the headlines I’m fed daily.

Lib successfully owned

We say “own the libs” specifically for this reason. It’s never alone, and always followed up by dozens and dozens of good faith posts and responses that attempt to peel back the “liberal” facade. Owning libs isn’t owning people, it’s getting people to abandon the fence and actually come to terms with or reveal their ideological positions.

The two options are either “oh shit, you’re making good points and I’m going to pay more attention” and “fuck you, we need more genocide”. Without fail we either convert fence sitters or force fascists to reveal themselves.

Hexbear is the Thing test for Lemmy instances. Which is why you should be weary of any instance that defederates us. Especially because the reasoning of “oh were niche” is bullshit seeing as how we have an active mycology comm and I’ve never brought up a topic there that didn’t have people engage with me.

The fact that we’re so ideologically consistent and coherent and have diverse interest groups is what scares fash. Because we can come into your Warhammer miniature comm, talk circles around you in your own topic and also call out the fact that you painted a panzer division emblem on one of your Repulsor models and then drag you out of the community kicking and screaming.

Hard to see anything but trees when you’re in the forest