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  • Not as dramatic of an ending as I’d expect. But still a pretty fun listen.

    I wonder is Lear ever tried to meet up with her Noonien Singh relatives?

    I actually feel like La’an really reduces some of the drama of the daughter of Khan trying to find her place and understand where and who she is. She’s not technically all alone because she has estranged family who already understands the prejudice of augments in Star Fleet.

    I feel it is actually fitting for Khan to stay with his people to lead them. This is a noble trait, but it’s also a bit more of an ego thing that does fit his character more than being selfish enough to save himself.

    Elborians dying seems like a cop out. But I guess we need a reason the augments never got rescued, and Delmonda would have definitely sent for help.

    This is a bit of fiction I never thought needed expanding. But it wasn’t so bad. I hope they do some more interesting little side stories or expanded lore on something that might need more exploring. Say what happened to Prime Lorca, or how the events that led to Unification Part 3. You know, something a bit more meaty.


  • I actually didn’t expect Khan to just abandon his people…but he does seem a bit self serving, so I guess it’s not exactly out of character.

    Also, we get some idea of when everything happens.

    • 2267 - Space Seed. 6 months later Ceti Alpha VI blows up.
    • 2272 - They complete the Venture, and it presumably takes off with Kali and Delmonda and maybe 2 others.
    • 2285 - Wrath of Khan happens. Khan mentioned it was 15 years after being marooned on Ceti Alpha V, but this is clearly 18 year difference. Khan could just be bad at keeping time. (this is assuming that memory alpha is correct)
    • 2293 - The Excellsior goes to Ceti Alpha V to investigate why Ceti Alpha VI blew up and what happened to Khan and company. Sulu also mentions Kirk’s death, so we know this takes place after the Enterprise-B’s maiden voyage from the opening of Generations.

    Also, interesting reasoning for Ceti Alpha VI’s destruction being from the Elboreans’ nonstandard warp drive. I’m really happy they explained it. I don’t understand it though. What kind of FTL drive blows up planets? That sounds more like a horrible weapon putting the Deathstar to shame.

    Sounds like rehabilitating Ivan didn’t go very well.

    Well, one episode left. I have to say, this has been a pretty enjoyable listen to on my mondays.



  • I know this is consistent with the film, but part of me wishes she had met her demise more directly as a result of some choice that Khan made, if only to reinforce just how foolish she had been to join his little cult in the first place.

    What I REALLY thought would happen is that Khan would be losing control of the situation and implant the Ceti Eel in McGiven’s as a way to control her. Super messed up and dark, not as dramatic and evil going with a hot spring being populated by Ceti Eels. But you know, sometimes the universe is just uncaring.

    And clearly they want to make Khan more sympathetic. So it’s not a bad decision and is clearly offering interesting character growth for him. I imagine in the next few episodes we’ll start to see him swing back to the tyrant we know he is.


  • This was a pretty heavy episode. A lot of interesting emotional beats.

    Rosalind Lear appears to be hiding some kind of alternative motivation for investigating into Khan and Ceti Alpha, that is assuming Tuvok’s suspicions are correct. I wonder if Lear might be a distant relative to an augment. We know that the Noonien-Singh line even survives to the 23rd century because of La’an from SNW. (Why did La’an’s ancestors not change their last name?)

    The song the young augments were listening to was Your Touch released in 2021. The song is synthwave so sounds like something from the 80’s, which I thought was intentional, as we know from Space Seed that the Botany Bay was launched in the 90’s (thought because of time travel shinanigans this was shifted around a few times). But I was expecting this to still be true. I’m unsure if this song is meant to imply that we’re in a timeline where the Botany Bay is launched after 2021, or if this song is meant to be from the 80’s which is how the augments have a copy. I wouldn’t read too much into this, but…what’s the point if we don’t argue a bit over it?

    Ivan’s betrayal, and Khan’s odd mercy towards him is interesting. Khan’s paranoia served him well to deduce Ivan’s betrayal as well. I’m very curious if the Elboreans will actually be able to rehabilitate Ivan, i suspect if they’re successful this will place a great deal more paranoia in to Khan as he’ll believe the Elboreans are capable of brainwashing. And make him even less trusting of them.

    Lastly the inevitable loss of McGiven’s to the Ceti Eel. It hit much harder than I was expecting. Amazing performances from the actors. I feel there are 2 possible fates of Kali, either Delmonda will save her and escape on that small ship they’re building (Delmonda leaving the augments behind on Ceti Alpha V because Khan inevitably betrays them), or she dies which will send Khan of the deep end to go ape shit on the Elboreans.

    This was a very interesting episode. I think we only have 2 eps left. Things should get moving pretty quick.




  • That was an ending alright. I feel like the epilogue was nice, with no killing of a main character for no reason (looking at you ENT) and everyone got a pretty happy ending. And Calypso at least is canon, but it’d have been nice to have more context on what the end game is.

    But my problem is that the emotional pay off just doesn’t feel deserved. I really just don’t feel connected with the characters and crew enough. I really feel like more episodes (or a lot more) to really flesh things out would have helped a lot.

    But you know what I think I might actually like. A movie. I feel like tightening up the epic galaxy ending plot in a 90 to 120 minute feature film would feel better then a 10 ep season. I doubt we’ll get one, but it’d be nice to see what kind of nonsense Burnham gets in to since they end it on a pseudo cliff hanger (as is DISCO tradition).

    But what was up with Detmer and Owo being side lined for the second half of the season. I was expecting some kind of pay off for that, but nothing… It seemed unnecessary.