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How do you fight class war?

But I’m not going to try and pull teeth to get you to be straightforward.

Yeah, you’re just going to write walls of text about it. Since you don’t have physical access to the guy.

How about some earlier yesrs prior to USSR occupation?

If some recruiter ghosted you, don’t bother them and move on

Bourgeoisie are usually less of a psychopath than proletarians.

Based on what?

Based on the fact that whatever other qualities a government, or any organization, can have, they all don’t matter if that organization doesn’t last long. Not to mention that your precious quality of human life usually drops significantly when governments collapse.

What country are you talking about?

Ussr

Exactly my point.

Governments don’t produce cars though.

Yeah, you should also be a good parent for it to happen.

Should criminals be arrested even though they have a sob story of how society mistreated them as a kid?

your reasoning on why you have to be in charge has no bearing on whether you being in charge is good for people

You being good for people is secondary, less important parameter.

effective at the tasks of governance

I guess if your country managed to survive for 74 years before collapsing on its own, then we can conclude you were not effective.

Ford makes the best cars because they have been making cars the longest

This is not my argument. But if Ford really is the oldest car manufacturer, then it definetly scores them some points as a car manufacturer. It doesn’t mean their cars are good.

but the duration of a system of government’s continuity is not the sole, nor most important, attribute when judging its legitimacy, utility, merit for all its citizens.

1. Not all government forms have the institution of citizenship

2. Why isn’t longevity the most important attribute? Any organization’s goal is to last as long as possible. All other goals come second.

You’re taking a teenage edgelord’s, or if serious, a sociopath’s dictator’s position, as if that’s something to aspire to be.

Unrelated to the discussion, ad hominem.

I thought he said that Trump was sent by God or something.

If the Roman Republic, isn’t democratic enough for you, then, as I said, we could talk about the Athenians

Athenian democracy existed for less than 200 years and Athens were a village with 10k population. Might as well just talk about US so that democracy doesn’t embarass itself.

Or perhaps the Iroquois League.

What about it?

The merit and utility of a system of governance is measured by how long it lasts

Yep.

What are you talking about, and send some links to back up whatever that is.

What’s not clear to you? You said it yourself: “>The merit and utility of a system of governance is measured by how long it lasts”. Let’s conduct a thought experiment. What’s better, your current government, or or new ideal government that has perfect conditions for its citizens, but only lasts for 1 day and then the state collapses?

Roman Republic exited for 500 years before Roman empire. They were the first to implement the division of government into 3 branches, so I guess they weren’t a dictatorship? They actually invented the word “dictator”. It was temporary authority given to the head of the state at the times of emergency. So, most of the time Rome wasn’t a dictatorship. And it wasn’t a democracy.

Will you provide any evidence for your claims? It’s not me who’s claiming Roman republic was a democratic state (lol). “popular assemblies composed of common citizens” lol, look up centuriate assembly and see how many votes common sitizens had in it (spoiler: 0.5% of total votes).

Was Roman Republic a dictatorship?

I mean like Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, etc. By monarchies I mean all monarchies, but since you’re comparing the quality of life of today’s democracies it only makes sense to compare it to today’s monarchies.

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Fuck pensions btw, pensions are communist shit and should be abolished.

They fit almost all of the criteria of communism. If Democratic Kampuchea haven’t achieved communism, it was very-very close to it. Much closer than any other country. If you disagree, please provide something substantial. What are the necessary criteria for communism that Democratic Kampuchea didn’t fit?