This post is about what could be done with them though. It’s not about image generators, it’s about coding agents. LLMs are really good at programming certain things and it’s gotten to the point where avoiding them puts you at a needless disadvantage. It’s not like artisanally typed code is any better than what the bot generates.

Sapo Verde to you 🐸

The answer to the contradiction between socialized production and individual property isn’t to reprivatize production, but to socialize property.

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Would you approve of AI if companies bought licenses from the artists in their training data? Is this the underlying issue for you, that capitalists aren’t playing by their own rules? This is a reasonable grievance but it’s hardly communist.

Regarding labor, don’t you want people to work less? Yes the machine takes less manpower than a human. That’s potentially liberatory. Of course under bourgeois rule, this technology is used to suppress the wages of artists. But that’s true for everything, which is why the problem is capitalism itself and why we shouldn’t cede control of this new technology to capitalists.

Also I don’t mean to put words in your mouth. I asked those questions to get you to think about how the anti-plagiarism laws you want for AI would manifest in real life. And I said that you’re an advocate for expanding intellectual property because you’re implying that artists should have more protections against having their work copied. When an artist’s work cannot be copied without the right granted to you, then they hold the copyright, a form of IP. This is shortsighted because those who are most able to defend their IPs and who have the most IPs to defend are not solo artists, but corporations. Broaden copyright laws and you’re directly giving power to Disney and the like.

P.S. chill out, damn. You’re being snarky as hell when both me are memorable have been formal with you. I’m not trying to dunk on you and this isn’t reddit.

It for sure seems like this topic sucks the theory out of comrades and turns them into mini Mickey mice, ready to kill to protect the sanctity of their IP. It’s either that or they’ll suddenly embrace idealism because pictures are only meaningful when they’re metaphysically imbued with human spirit or whatever.

In real life, this doesn’t bother me because I’m surrounded by libs. But it is aggravating how common reaction is on here and hexbear. I don’t understand how avid pirates can be so attached to intellectual property laws.

Copyright is one of the 4 types of intellectual property. Your misguided defense of the individual author strengthens publishing companies instead, since they own the means of production to copy and have the lawyers to litigate such violations.

Also you misunderstand how the technology works. Generative AI does not function by copying the data it was trained on, but by using the trends it noticed in that data to piece together something original. Examine the code of whichever LLM and you will never find any books, pictures, or movies stored within. It’s a sophisticated network of associations and dissociations.

Now you might then argue that these generalized statistics also constitute plagiarism, but consider what that entails. If mimicry is criminal, should it then be illegal for artists to imitate another’s style? Should musicians be able to patent chord progressions and leitmotifs? Should genres be property?

Your stance against AI is boxed within the existing bourgeois framework of creative ownership which I hope you agree is awful. I understand the precarity that this tech creates for artists but expanding IP will empower, not weaken, the companies that exploit them.

For what it’s worth I’m with you on this one. There’s a lot of robot-bashing on the left when fundamentally the complaints are about the commodification of art, not about the tools used to make it. It’s frankly unmarxist to stand against AI, at least generally. I really hope no one here will die on the hill that “intellectual property” is real.

What’s up with white people saying “I didn’t have [thing] on my bingo card”? It’s like an animal crossing catchphrase with them, I swear. I heard two distinct people say it today alone. So freaky.

Stranger: “¿Dónde está la biblioteca?”

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I think that this machine learning stuff is just revealing the role of illustrators/writers/musicians in our society: slop factories. They’re here to churn out the latest cash-grab sequel movies and generic Billboard hot 100 songs. Whatever you define “art” as, it’s probably not what these industries are pumping out even with human talent.

But that’s not the fault of the code because it’s been like this since forever. Besides, shouldn’t it come as a relief that this uninspired, unfulfilling work is becoming automated? The amount of support I’m seeing online about these infamously soul-crushing jobs is a little weird. I mean, I know unemployment is worse but people are getting all RETVRNy about grinding at their poorly paid creative jobs. Surely we can imagine a future better than wage slaving for suits, right? Beyond the commodification of all human expression? Maybe not.

Funny you say that because Unitedstatesian is actually the proper term in Spanish (estadounidense). Besides that, I’ve heard people say Americano/a or yanqui. I’ve never heard usaeño/a

It’s a cultural thing for white people. Hell, I’d say that it’s one of the only things that’s truly white culture. When the word “art” gets used on something, it’s basically the same as anointing it. Any and every drawing, sculpture, text, video, and song is “art” by default. And some take it further to define everything made by a person as “art” too. Even though it’s vague as hell, it’s a deadly serious topic.

I’m not saying that other cultures don’t have similar ideas, but that it’s weird the way that white people universally agree that protecting “art”, whatever that is, is of the utmost importance.

He estado jugando Temtem últimamente y porque los desarrolladores son de España, el juego no solo se puede jugar en español, pero hasta usa lenguaje de género neutral. No voy a mentir, es dificilísimo leer y toda la jerga europea no ayuda. Pero me gusta el juego aunque hay demasiadas batallas y si piensas en algún momento cambiar tu equipo, tendrás que moler un montón.

I’m really looking forward to Rhythm heaven groove! It’s the only game that caught my attention and I’m glad that the series got another entry after the last one on 3ds a lifetime ago.

Yeah! I don’t know why the vaguest possible word caught on. Now it’s just a formal way of saying “things.” If you care so little about what you’re creating that you can’t even describe it, just call it what it is: slop. Ugh it’s so frustrating how the most disinterested business jargon imaginable is the new normal. It’s one thing for shareholders to describe their cash cows as “stuff makers” because of course they would. But why on earth are people choosing to call themselves that instead of, idk, photographers, video editors, writers, artists?

Content content content content content I swear to god if I hear that word one more time I’m going ballistic. 90% of the time, people use the word to mean “videos” or “posts.” Is “youtuber” a slur now? God I’d rather hear slurs than “content creator” another fucking time. Why tf does everyone talk like they’re suits in a stock meeting?

Yeah Canada arrested the daughter of Huawei’s founder, Meng Wanzhou, for nearly three years. It was for bullshit reasons and on the US’s behalf because as we all know, Canadians are just American henchmen.

Hi! It’s so cool to meet commies from other countries. Now that you’re here, I have some VERY important questions to ask you: What do South Koreans think of China? Do you like Buldak noodles? Can you wiggle your ears?

According to Wynn-Williams, Zuckerberg requested that she arrange either a “peace rally” or a “riot” during his visit. Facebook’s CEO never explains the request, but Wynn-Williams speculates he wanted "to test out how effective his product is in turning Facebook’s online tools into offline power.”

Americans say that TikTok is Chinese propaganda meanwhile Facebook straight up tried to incite a pro-Zuck protest in China. It’s projection to the extreme

“Zenz’s so-called ‘research report’ will be swept into the dustbin of history together with himself, and will be spurned by the 25 million people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang,” Xu said.

The Chinese are sending Zenz to the shadow realm dustbin. You love to see it

It’s true that Nazi Germany, Italy, and friends had colonization projects in Africa, but people didn’t create a new word about it because that’s generally understood for what it is. But when they did it to other Europeans, suddenly THAT requires an update in vocabulary and a paradigm shift? Do white people think they’re too good to be colonized or what