• addictedtochaos@lemm.ee
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    25 days ago

    i dont think that an electric fleet is feasable by 2030. for one simple reason: wintertime. the way to go for commercial vehicles is for the time being dieselelectric. that means diesel generator, battery, and electric drive.

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      24 days ago

      We already have a fully electric bus fleet in my city (Oslo, Norway).

      Granted, when we had a period of extreme cold and snow last winter there was a bit of chaos. The electric buses did struggle a bit with range (though we’re talking -20 C), but the main problem was the combination of rear wheel drive and lots of snow.

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        24 days ago

        do they have heating? maybe i am out of the loop, but last thing i read about electric busses was that they end up scrapped quite fast. i will read up on oslo, thanks.

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          24 days ago

          Yes, they’re modern city buses with heating and air conditioning. Most of the buses are from the Solaris Urbino Electric line, but we also have quite a few from Mercedes, BYD and MAN.

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            24 days ago

            chances are that i was talking out of my behind, i will look into it, thanks for giving me doubts. what i last read was people freezing in busses, and busses being in depots for charging all the time.

            you sure those bussus are fully elctric? my impression was hybrid.

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          24 days ago

          No? San Francisco has had electric busses for decades. They go up and down hills all the time. Their only problem is they have no batteries, so once they are disconnected they stop. It happens every day.

          I think something combination of a small battery and a direct connection will work great. The battery only needs to work for an hour and the bus will be able to get around just fine.