As someone who never played during an expansion launch, how hard are the latest Savage raids? I’ve been afraid to try them, I don’t have an active FC so I’d be queuing and I don’t want to be a burden. I can run the normal raids and not die or even get hit by the mechanics the whole run, but not sure how big of a jump up in difficulty they are mechanics wise.

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    It is a big jump in difficulty. You got mostly no visual yellow markers and need to pay attention to the area, boss position / stance and so one in Savage levels. Instead of queuing, you should use Party Finder for that. It doesnt hurt to lookup guides, if you do it without a static. Also some statics also do that, instead of learning by trying.

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      3 months ago

      To follow on from this, after the first week or so, parties running the fights blind are typically in the minority. Most of the time there’s been established strategies to handle fights (these can vary from DC to DC) and people will follow those strategies.

      With that in mind, watching a guide to the fight is very much normal so don’t be afraid to do it unless you plan to go in blind! (And if you’re just starting out in savage you’re probably not in that group unless you’ve got a couple of friends you want to try it with).

      Basically though think of savage as a dance. You need to learn the choreography. Once you’ve done that, then it’s a case of optimising your damage output while performing that choreography. The randomness in the fight is typically just whether you get sequence A or B first, so if you’re comfortable with the memorisation of mechanics, and then repeating them over and over until you can do them on auto pilot, you’ll do fine 😊

      (If you’re a healer or tank obviously you also need to be doing healing or tanking as well, so factor that in to what you need to learn!)

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        I really appreciate the info and perspective you and the person above you provided! I kind of want to go in blind, but probably will chicken out lol. Do either of you have recommendations for videos or guides in case I end up studying first? I plan on using Red Mage or Dancer if that factors in.

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          3 months ago

          Hector Hectorson is a good place to start, he uses a top down graphic style to explain the fights. You also don’t see the actual game footage as a result so you can still sort of go blind in the fight itself but still have knowledge of mechanics.

          https://youtube.com/@hectorhectorson

          I quite like Mizzteq’s video guides as well, she also uses footage from the fights which can be helpful to understand what to actually look for in game. Plus her pun game is on point 😂

          https://youtube.com/@mtqcapture

          There’s others out there as well who also do guide content, this is by no means an exhaustive list but they’re my two personal favorites.

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            Thank you for taking the time and providing some recommendations, I’ll check them both out! First one sounds perfect for me wanting to go in kind of blind, but some good puns are really tempting lol.

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              3 months ago

              @pontiffkitchen0 I’d recommend you to do the first few fights guided - that will help you understand some more mechanics when you eventually try a fight without a guide.

              Hector provides decent guides, but usually super early before better strategies have been concieved - so watch out if a party in PF calls for something else; though if you read the descriptions, it’s fairly obvious. And if anything is unclear, we’re happy to help or figure it out together.

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                That’s probably what I’ll do, atleast watch and study the first one before hand and see what I’m getting myself into. And I appreciate the call out, I’ll keep that in mind that I should be open to following what someone in the party says to do instead of blindly following possibly outdated strats from early videos. I really do appreciate this community, and the FF14 community as a whole. It’s not universal, but overall it’s the most welcoming and friendly gaming community I’ve ever experienced.