Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?

  • TriStar@lemmyfly.org
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    1 year ago

    Please tell me you haven’t been creating accounts on every instace. You can register on one instance then use that account to interact with content and communities on all other instances.

    • mango_master@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      No, but some people are discussing about creating new logins, so I want to clarify. Thanks for the clarification.

    • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Some people do make this mistake, I’ve seen a thread or two asking about it after they already started. We’ll need a proper solution eventually, likely education/tutorial-based.

        • Johnny@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          True, but changing this is unfortunately unfeasible with the way the web works. If I just access the URL of a post on instance A, there is no reasonable way for it to know that my home instance is B.

          There should at least be a button or something that sends you to your home instance after entering the domain though. Other than that, we’ll have to keep using browser addons and userscripts

      • Zarxrax@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Literally every single explanation of Lemmy or fediverse that I have seen makes this really clear. I don’t understand where people would get the idea that you have to sign up to every site.

        • cerevant@lemmy.world
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          It is really clear until a newb tries to use it:

          • Someone gives you a link, or you find it in search
          • You click on the link, because that’s what you do with links
          • It takes you to what you are looking for, but it says you have to log in to comment or vote
          • You log in so you can comment or vote

          The UX for interacting with off-instance subs is abysmal. What is even worse is that as far as I can tell, there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent.

          • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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            1 year ago

            there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent

            I’m commenting mainly as a reminder to myself to check back later if someone comes in with a correction.

            That said, the answer to this in the long term should be for the front ends (Lemmy UI, Jerboa, Sync for Lemmy, etc.) to be smart about this. My Mastodon app, Megalodon, does it. If you click a link to a post in another instance, it automatically looks up the same post from your instance and takes you there. It’s a little slower (and Megalodon shows you a button to short-circuit it and just go to that URL if you don’t care to be on your instance), but it lets you interact with the post as normal.

            • cerevant@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Even at the most basic level it is broken - at the bottom of your comment is a “context” button with the fediverse symbol. If I click on it, it won’t take me to the comment on my instance (lemmy.world) but instead is an absolute link to the comment on your instance (Aussie.world) even though the community lives on lemmy.world.

              I love lemmy, and I think it has a bright future, but this fundamental problem really needs to be fixed.

              • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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                1 year ago

                You’re probably looking at the rainbow pentagon button, which behaves as you describe. There’s also a kind of chain link button. That one should take you to the context within your own instance. At least on web that’s how it works. Different apps may display differently.

        • Trapping5341@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Because when you click a link out of link Google or something you try to login and it says your login doesn’t work. To actually view that page properly you have to copy the link go you home instance and search it again then go to the post and then you can interact with it. Some people either A. don’t realize that or B. Don’t understand that’s how it all functions. It confused the shit out of me for the first couple days but I just didn’t care enough to create a new account because my account “should” have worked there I just didn’t know how to make that happen.

        • Ste@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          And now we know how the Fediverse got all that users in the last period 😆

      • r00ty@kbin.life
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        Yes, and no. You can access lemmy and kbin instances from mastadon. But the format doesn’t work so well I think. I’m not sure how far it goes and how viable it is though. I’m not on mastadon.

        But once you have an account on one of the threadiverse instances, defederation aside the same content should be available.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      No some communities need a new login. lemmy NSFW has no content without it. th there’s the issue of having a slow instance like world vs another instance

      • syl@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        Others have already said, but I will reinterate:

        You have to go to your account settings and enable “Show NSFW”. It is off by default.

        • TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Nah, it’s been enabled, it’s literally just that instance that wont show anything without an account on their instance.

          Unless you mean the setting for my *.world account can be on everywhere else but OFF on the *nsfw instance alone??

    • iopq@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I registered on a bunch and they all went down except for the biggest ones