Maybe that’s true, it seems right anyway.

I just don’t think that’ll happen all on its own for a variety of reasons, I think a lot of people have to decide they’re upset enough to do something all at the same time.

More people than I think is reasonable are comfortable with politics as something like a performance you make on social media and then pick the least terrible flavor on election day, and idk how else to push those people into the real world of organizing without making it too uncomfortable to hide behind that performance.