We agree on that. I don’t, however, expect the US democratic party to represent me and my interests. They represent the ruling class just like nearly every major political party around the world. Electoral politics isn’t going to change that.
Do you think it’s some kind of gachya that I believe organizing workforces, community activism, and direct action will do more good for people than simply voting once every couple of years? Did I indicate to you at any point that people shouldn’t vote for the less fascist party/candidates? The point is not “Don’t vote”, it’s “Meaningful political change will never come if voting is people’s only method for enacting said change.”
Yea, I’m in agreement. Nowhere have I ever said ‘don’t vote’. I’ve repeatedly and very loudly said ‘voting is not half as important as agitation’
Liberals will constantly parade around polls showing progressive and leftist policies as being ‘not popular’, and then cry bloody murder when leftists try agitating for them. They’ll accuse us of ‘both sides’-ing when we point out democrats doing the same shit as republicans, they’ll accuse us of being controlled opposition when we protest against democrats supporting fascism abroad, they’ll even accuse us of supporting fascism ourselves for holding democrats to the same standard as we hold republicans.
No, it wasn’t a ‘gotcha’, it was ‘yahtzee’, as in, ‘the numbers have aligned and we’re somehow in agreement’.
They don’t have to be “literally the same” for controlled opposition to prevent meaningful change.
Actually I think people who try and paper over important problems with their own party are the ones preventing meaningful change.
We agree on that. I don’t, however, expect the US democratic party to represent me and my interests. They represent the ruling class just like nearly every major political party around the world. Electoral politics isn’t going to change that.
Yahtzee.
Do you think it’s some kind of gachya that I believe organizing workforces, community activism, and direct action will do more good for people than simply voting once every couple of years? Did I indicate to you at any point that people shouldn’t vote for the less fascist party/candidates? The point is not “Don’t vote”, it’s “Meaningful political change will never come if voting is people’s only method for enacting said change.”
Yea, I’m in agreement. Nowhere have I ever said ‘don’t vote’. I’ve repeatedly and very loudly said ‘voting is not half as important as agitation’
Liberals will constantly parade around polls showing progressive and leftist policies as being ‘not popular’, and then cry bloody murder when leftists try agitating for them. They’ll accuse us of ‘both sides’-ing when we point out democrats doing the same shit as republicans, they’ll accuse us of being controlled opposition when we protest against democrats supporting fascism abroad, they’ll even accuse us of supporting fascism ourselves for holding democrats to the same standard as we hold republicans.
No, it wasn’t a ‘gotcha’, it was ‘yahtzee’, as in, ‘the numbers have aligned and we’re somehow in agreement’.
Ahh. My miskate, apologies for misunderstanding you!
Edit: and extra apologies for my confrontational tone at your, in retrospect, very benign comment.
Have a great day!