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minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down10·1 year agoNever heard of a decompiler I see.
minus-squareセリャスト@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up23arrow-down1·1 year agoA decompiler doesnt give you access to the comments, variable names, which is an important part of every source code
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up5·1 year agoMeanwhile, AI is having a heyday with it… https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.09029
minus-squareBaroqueInMind@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down3·1 year agoWhat’s cool is that you can interpret the var names yourself and rename them whatever you want.
minus-squareセリャスト@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up7·1 year agoBut it is extremely time-consuming. Open source code makes it transparent and easy to read, that’s what it is about: transparency
minus-squarenewIdentity@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up14·1 year agoA decompiler won’t give you the source code. Just some code that might not even necessarily work when compiled back.
minus-squareamki@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoFrom the point of view of the decompiler machine code is indeed the source code though
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down6·1 year agoAnd? Decompilers aren’t for noobs. So what if it gives you variable and function names like A000, A001, etc? It can still lead a seasoned programmer where to go in the raw machine code to mod some things.
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down9·1 year agoYou’re actually chatting with a hacker that made No-CD hacks.
minus-squaretastysnacks@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up7·1 year agoTry converting from English to Japanese and back to English.
minus-squareamki@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·edit-21 year agoA fancy way to say do nothing is not the same as translating back and forth. Example: Show me the intermediate translation. Also we live in a 64bit world now old man
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·1 year agoYou’re right. xor rax, rax
minus-squareKaryoplasma@discuss.tchncs.delinkfedilinkarrow-up1·edit-21 year agoGF2P8AFFINEINVQB xmm1, xmm2, 10
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·1 year agoAlso that instruction does not do nothing, it resets the CPU register to zero without having to access RAM. Far from a NOP instruction.
minus-squareSpaceNoodle@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down1·1 year agoStill not the actual source code, bucko.
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoNo, it’s actually better when you can read the machine code. Most folks don’t care to recompile the whole thing when all they wanna do is bypass the activation and tracker shit.
minus-squareSpaceNoodle@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·1 year agoHaving access to the source code actually makes reading machine code easier, so you’re also wrong on this entirely different thing you’re going on about.
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoYou’ve clearly never used a disassembler such as HIEW have you? You get the entire breakdown of the assembly code.
minus-squareSpaceNoodle@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·1 year agoI disassemble binaries daily for work. It’s still not the same as source code.
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoI never said disassembly or decompiling was easier in any way. I’ll agree with you on that, it’s way more difficult. Back to the point of the meme though, if you can read assembly, you can read it all.
minus-squareSpaceNoodle@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·edit-21 year agoYou’ve never actually compared source code to its compiled output, have you.
minus-squareover_clox@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 year agoI’ve written drivers in 65 bytes of code. I don’t tend to use high level languages that hide what’s going on behind the scenes.
Never heard of a decompiler I see.
A decompiler doesnt give you access to the comments, variable names, which is an important part of every source code
Meanwhile, AI is having a heyday with it…
https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.09029
What’s cool is that you can interpret the var names yourself and rename them whatever you want.
But it is extremely time-consuming. Open source code makes it transparent and easy to read, that’s what it is about: transparency
A decompiler won’t give you the source code. Just some code that might not even necessarily work when compiled back.
From the point of view of the decompiler machine code is indeed the source code though
And? Decompilers aren’t for noobs. So what if it gives you variable and function names like A000, A001, etc?
It can still lead a seasoned programmer where to go in the raw machine code to mod some things.
You’re actually chatting with a hacker that made No-CD hacks.
Try converting from English to Japanese and back to English.
xor ax, ax
A fancy way to say do nothing is not the same as translating back and forth. Example: Show me the intermediate translation.
Also we live in a 64bit world now old man
You’re right.
xor rax, rax
Also that instruction does not do nothing, it resets the CPU register to zero without having to access RAM. Far from a NOP instruction.
Still not the actual source code, bucko.
No, it’s actually better when you can read the machine code.
Most folks don’t care to recompile the whole thing when all they wanna do is bypass the activation and tracker shit.
Having access to the source code actually makes reading machine code easier, so you’re also wrong on this entirely different thing you’re going on about.
You’ve clearly never used a disassembler such as HIEW have you? You get the entire breakdown of the assembly code.
I disassemble binaries daily for work. It’s still not the same as source code.
I never said disassembly or decompiling was easier in any way. I’ll agree with you on that, it’s way more difficult.
Back to the point of the meme though, if you can read assembly, you can read it all.
You’ve never actually compared source code to its compiled output, have you.
I’ve written drivers in 65 bytes of code. I don’t tend to use high level languages that hide what’s going on behind the scenes.