• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    You’re moving the goalposts. What was being discussed is if a vote would have gone to Biden, but becomes a non-vote, then that absolutely helps Trump under plurality voting.

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        I wasn’t sure either. I was curious how far the script would go. I think I finally go to the end of it with its ad hominem attacks finally arriving.

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      it’s unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way. this is known as a “counterfactual” and they are, tautologically, unprovable.

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        it’s unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way.

        Oh really?

        Scenario 1: Baseline

        • candidate A receives 10 votes
        • candidate B receives 9 votes
        • Outcome: Candidate A wins under plurality

        Scenario 2: Two voters for Candidate A are convinced not to vote (non-vote) or vote for a candidate other than A or B

        • candidate A receives 8 votes
        • candidate B receives 9 votes
        • Outcome: Candidate B wins under plurality

        Proof enough?

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          under what circumstances can you claim that two voters would vote differently, but nothing else would change? given that the circumstances changed enough for them to make a different decision, we must conclude that we don’t know enough about the fictional alternate reality to guess at the outcome.

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            indicates to me that you are detached from reality.

            And finally, after exhausting any logical defense, you arrive at ad hominem attacks! Thanks for playing have a good day!

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              it is not ad hominem to insist that someone who refuses basic tenets of reasoning is not dealing with reality.