Yeah I mean if we were being more fair we would not only have to trace these genres genealogy through Jazz to blues and gospel, ragtime, and also to Caribbean and Spanish music (especially for alot of rhythmic ideas) and also West African music (blues, pentatonic scales), but also recognize that European classical music also had deep influence on early black american music.

The only country music I’ve ever unironically enjoyed was bluegrass, and that confirms our point. That being said I’m nothing of an aficionado of this stuff so I dont doubt there’s decent stuff I dont know.

But yh white suburds are really where culture goes to die. It reminds of a commnet Pasolini once made that only the lower classes and the upper classes in history have produced real culture. The middle classes have been cultureless on average.