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    You’ve moved the goalposts, but no matter.

    You might not recall this, but Operation Enduring Freedom was sold as a war on terrorism and the US repeatedly cited opium as a target of the war because they claimed it funded the Taliban.

    Which does make it a direct debunking of your comment. Regardless of how you feel about it and how you rage in response.

    Or did you think it was retaliation for 9/11 or something? That’s the alternative I’m seeing here. Don’t you remember when the Taliban offered Osama Bin Laden to the US after 9/11, and the US said no?

    [Removed bc it feels like dirtying the memory] I remember it all very well.

    Also do feel free to explain how this is any way relevant to the conversation:

    correlation ≠ causation

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      You’ve moved the goalposts, but no matter.

      “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5. (borrowed form another comment)

      Operation Enduring Freedom was sold as a war on terrorism

      see, you even admit that it wasn’t about opium.

      the US repeatedly cited opium as a target of the war because they claimed it funded the Taliban.

      you’re welcome to cite sources to back up your claims. and I’ll be happy to point out how the timeline doesn’t support your assertions that the war was about opium, it just happened to be something the US did while we were there.

      Or did you think it was retaliation for 9/11 or something?

      what I think is irrelevant. that facts are what matter.

      I have American friends who died defending those poppy fields. I remember it all very well.

      irrelevant. present facts. not anecdotes or your feelings.

      Also do feel free to explain how this is any way relevant to the conversation:

      correlation ≠ causation

      I have, repeatedly. your inability/refusal to understand is not my problem.

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        see, you even admit that it wasn’t about opium.

        You don’t seem to be capable of following the conversation, after all. I explained how the official stance was opium = terrorist activity to the US.

        it just happened to be something the US did while we were there.

        Oh my, you are really lost! Do you even know what headline you’re commenting under? Did you miss every other comment?

        I’m sorry that I do not know how to find search results from 2001. I don’t even know why I’m trying so hard, it isn’t my country that was running a cartel.

        what I think is irrelevant. that facts are what matter.

        Yes, that’s why I was trying to figure out why you are struggling with them. If your thinking is misaligned from reality, then it would explain the issue. I agree, the facts are what matter. But you were presented with some and could not even comprehend how they were relevant, prompting my initial comment. If you streamrolled through that, why should I let you play sealion? So you can ignore more data points? You’ve showed no intention of polite or honest engagement.

        I have American friends who died defending those poppy fields. I remember it all very well.

        irrelevant. present facts. not anecdotes or your feelings.

        Well that pretty much confirms my suspicions that America sent their best and brightest to die…

        Also do feel free to explain how this is any way relevant to the conversation:

        correlation ≠ causation

        I have, repeatedly. your inability/refusal to understand is not my problem.

        Ah, so you do realize that it makes absolutely no sense lol

        Looks like my job is done here. Rage on, little snowflake.

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          You don’t seem to be capable of following the conversation

          I’m perfectly capable of noticing when people move the goalposts because they can’t prove their argument with facts, as I keep pouting out. raging about it doesn’t change this fact or any other facts.

          Oh my, you are really lost!

          not according to the facts. if this continues to confuse you, that’s not my problem.

          I’m sorry that I do not know how to find search results from 2001

          not my job to prove your argument.

          Yes, that’s why I was trying to figure out why you are struggling with them.

          “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

          you’ve presented nothing but anger, insults, and logical fallacies, none of which are convincing of anything other than that, when you can’t argue the facts in good faith, you resort to these bad-faith tactics ad nauseam because, so blinded by anger and hate, you can’t handle defeat.

          Well that pretty much confirms my suspicions

          so you admit to arguing from a position of clear and obvious bias. we get it— you hate the US. this has zero bearing on the facts— just that you like to insult people when you lose an argument.

          Ah, so you do realize that it makes absolutely no sense lol

          I’m not responsible for your lack of comprehension.

          Looks like my job is done here. Rage on, little snowflake.

          the finest projection in all the land.