I’m gay and I’ve lived in SLC for almost 65 years, and let me tell you - gay people are among the MOST bigoted. They think they are very accepting, but the truth is, most of them reject anyone who doesn’t fit their idea about what a gay male should be. If you look like a twink or you aren’t a certain way, you get shunned here completely. It’s really nasty to see.
But, the truth is, all human beings are bigoted. We have to be, we’re wired up that way. We are wired to want to only hang out with certain people and reject others, and see other people as inferior in almost every situation. It’s sort of a survival mechanism from primitive days, and it’s part of who we are as a species.
Most people were not very accepting of “different” people back then, but maybe it was just not talked about. There were a ton of “confirmed bachelors” and plenty of women had “roommates”.
People in the North and South were not different. The North had a ton of racists who didn’t want to fight and die for “colored people”. There was a huge riot in NYC of people who didn’t want to be drafted. They killed black people they found for no reason.
I think the Union’s stake in the civil war was more about federal supremacy over the United States (which obviously goes without question in a federal system). Ending slavery was just a function of that goal. I say this as someone who grew up in the southwest and is wholly committed to the authority of the federal government over individual states because that is obviously the system outlined in the constitution.
Of course “The North” was just as racist and still is just as shitty and racist as every other part of this country.
P.S. “The South” can suck it as a name, I propose a better title for former confederate states: The Losers (since it seems a certain demographic therein needs reminding).
A huge part of that riot was the Irish who were fresh off the boat from the potato famine and we’re not pleased that they had escaped one hell and we’re going to be drafted to a war they didn’t care about.
For some reason I’m reminded of a local house that flies both the Confederate and Pride flags.
They aren’t mutually exclusive flags, so I have to wonder if it is one opinion, or many.
Could also be someone flying the flags because they think it’s a funny thing to do, entirely unrelated to the political statement.
Which I guess is a political statement in itself.
I certainly found it funny as fuck, my thought process was “ugh, a bigoted cun-wait???”
gay people can absolutely be bigoted
I’m gay and I’ve lived in SLC for almost 65 years, and let me tell you - gay people are among the MOST bigoted. They think they are very accepting, but the truth is, most of them reject anyone who doesn’t fit their idea about what a gay male should be. If you look like a twink or you aren’t a certain way, you get shunned here completely. It’s really nasty to see.
But, the truth is, all human beings are bigoted. We have to be, we’re wired up that way. We are wired to want to only hang out with certain people and reject others, and see other people as inferior in almost every situation. It’s sort of a survival mechanism from primitive days, and it’s part of who we are as a species.
I used to work with a hispanic gay trump supporter who was also an evangelical Christian.
Just shows you how human beings are complicated, and so are our relationships.
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I wonder how the Confederates would have felt about Pride month.
Most people were not very accepting of “different” people back then, but maybe it was just not talked about. There were a ton of “confirmed bachelors” and plenty of women had “roommates”.
People in the North and South were not different. The North had a ton of racists who didn’t want to fight and die for “colored people”. There was a huge riot in NYC of people who didn’t want to be drafted. They killed black people they found for no reason.
I think the Union’s stake in the civil war was more about federal supremacy over the United States (which obviously goes without question in a federal system). Ending slavery was just a function of that goal. I say this as someone who grew up in the southwest and is wholly committed to the authority of the federal government over individual states because that is obviously the system outlined in the constitution.
Of course “The North” was just as racist and still is just as shitty and racist as every other part of this country.
P.S. “The South” can suck it as a name, I propose a better title for former confederate states: The Losers (since it seems a certain demographic therein needs reminding).
Sure, the North wanted consolidation. Of course the only reason the south seceded was because the federation said no more slaves
Many of the people in the North were as racist as the South, but the government was less so
I don’t know what you are saying other than exactly what I said. Also The Federation isn’t a government yet, you’re about 140 years too early.
What did the south secede from?
pretty sure it wasn’t The Federation.
A huge part of that riot was the Irish who were fresh off the boat from the potato famine and we’re not pleased that they had escaped one hell and we’re going to be drafted to a war they didn’t care about.