Two thoughts on this meme - self-reliance is necessary, and self-reliance is not sufficient, because if capitalism destroys the climate your homestead goes with it.

  • j_roby@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I definitely enjoy learning to fix electronics and appliances things on my own, and I enjoy designing and 3d printing helpful parts.

    That’s great! You’re already cutting out middlemen and the necessity of shipping things across the globe.

    But I have no urge to learn how to grow my own food or make a house or furniture etc.

    And that’s ok too. But the more you learn in those regards, the better. It cuts out that reliance on middlemen and international shipping.

    I don’t see a feasible situation where that would be helpful.

    I mean… Were you not affected in at least some way during Covid? That first year of lockdowns and massive shipping delays was eye-opening for lots of people. It’s hard to imagine that you can’t see at least some benefit to these ideas.

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      International shipping is absolutely fantastic. I’m not going to manufature electronics or injection mold stuff. I’m fine with middle men if they actually add value, like shipping and economies of scale do. I’d rather fix shipping rather than deindustrialize and revert 100 years.

      I didn’t really miss anything over covid, I don’t usually buy much other than food, and that was still available. I luckily got my computer before the shortages, so wasn’t effected there, but it’s not like I could have manufactured my own.

      • j_roby@slrpnk.netEnglish
        41·
        9 months ago

        I think you’re missing my point.

        Middlemen merchants and international shipping are things that regular folk have absolutely no control over. And if those things go away, whether that be due to a pandemic or a CEO deciding it’s just not profitable, those who rely entirely on that are fucked.

        Having at least a bit of knowledge on how to sustain yourself, even if it’s not a 100% self-reliant, will only be a net positive

        • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
          72·
          9 months ago

          If it’s not a monopoly, we (in aggregate) do have control over them, since they still need our money to operate. But that is one reason why monopolies need to be crushed or heavy regulated, so that they can’t have life and death control like you are mentioning.

        • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
          51·
          9 months ago

          I think it’s net negative because of the amount of time and money you’d need to invest for a very low probability event. It’s like the preper mindset. I can add a lot of positive specializing in my field that I wouldn’t be able to if I also trained myself in society collapse self sufficiency.