• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    11 months ago

    I get trying to push Biden to do better

    Do you, as a group, though?

    Every time someone posts an article about how it’s a bad thing that Biden is actively contributing to a genocide, the top comment is Trump whataboutism.

    Yes, Trump is much worse, both on Israel and in general, but that’s not the fucking point!

    • S_204@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      11 months ago

      Biden ain’t doing shit. He’s gonna go to Michigan and lie, then he’s going to maintain the same policies the US has for decades. It’s silly to think otherwise. And so it goes.

    • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      19
      ·
      11 months ago

      Trump is much worse, both on Israel and in general, but that’s not the fucking point!

      Except that the only two actual choices for the next 4 year cycle are Trump and Biden. Do that really us the point.

      Putting your progressive politics focus on the president is a losing game, anyway. Praxis is local.

      • ???@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        Wouldn’t this energy be better invested in getting Biden to stop supporting the Israeli genocide so that his Arab and Muslim voters don’t abandon him?

        • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          15
          ·
          11 months ago

          When it comes to American politics and actually affecting change, I think the energy is best invested in supporting progressive candidates from the bottom (local) up (national). Go to the primaries and vote for any candidate you can that is closer to your views if there are any. But when the time comes to vote for Biden, Trump, or abstain, anything other than voting for Biden is a vote for Trump, who is far worse in every conceivable way.

      • Count042@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        I didn’t realize the primary was over.

        It’s funny how that and the fact that the Democratic party has already, against it’s own rules, removed all candidates other than Biden from the ballots in 10% of the States never gets brought up.

        Instead we get a bunch of people posting in an attempt to shame people into voting for someone who supports genocide because ‘what else are you going to do’

        I wish the Democratic party acted like Trump was the existential threat we all recognize him to be.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        So as long as he’s marginally better than a deranged fascist rapist, criticism of him isn’t allowed at all?

        Fuck off with that authoritarianism bullshit!

        • HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          11 months ago

          I definitely feel like so many actual democrats are starting to show similar signs as MAGAts did. It’s been there to an extent, but holy shit is it getting bad. Now it’s either love him or you’re a borderline terrible person.