Annemarie Bridy (@AnnemarieBridy@mastodon.lawprofs.org)
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Training Generative AI Models on Copyrighted Works Is Fair Use - Association of Research Libraries https://www.arl.org/blog/training-generative-ai-models-on-copyrighted-works-is-fair-use/

I fucked with the title a bit. What i linked to was actually a mastodon post linking to an actual thing. but in my defense, i found it because cory doctorow boosted it, so, in a way, i am providing the original source here.

please argue. please do not remove.

  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
    56·
    10 months ago

    Just because a court hasn’t yet deemed that specific action illegal doesn’t mean it’s not illegal when you do it. Doesn’t matter if the crime is theft, rape, murder, etc.

    theft rape and murder are criminal matters. copyright is civil, and, yes, the courts can adjudicate every individual case.

      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
        32·
        10 months ago

        Just like theft, rape and murder…

        except that sometimes those are statutory. fair use claims cannot be statutory.

              • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
                5·
                10 months ago

                I have to admit, I did not realize that bare copyright infringement could be criminal, but it also requires criminal intent, so any defense lawyer would argue there was a fair use intent, and even if the civil matter were decided against the defendant, surely the criminal matter would be dropped.

                • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.devEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  The prosecuting lawyer would argue the intent was in fact criminal and not fair use.

                  You can’t just state “I had a fair use intent”, you state your intent (e.g. selling an AI model that creates content for financial gain) and the court determines if that intent was criminal or fair use. And considering criminal copyright law is intended to prevent others from financially profiting from your work, this can be construed as criminal intent. So I would not be so sure that the criminal matter would be dropped so easily.

                  Of course in this specific case, there’s a bit of a grey area, so the first case would not have criminal intent. But if ruled against the AI companies, subsequent cases could argue criminal intent as the AI companies should know by then that what they’re doing isn’t allowed.

              • wikibot@lemmy.worldBEnglish
                31·
                10 months ago

                Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

                Criminal copyright laws prohibit the unacknowledged use of another’s intellectual property for the purpose of financial gain. Violation of these laws can lead to fines and jail time. Criminal copyright laws have been a part of U. S. laws since 1897, which added a misdemeanor penalty for unlawful performances if “willful and for profit”.

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