• DiamondHansGruber@lemmy.whynotdrs.org
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    11 months ago

    falling back on that crutch of wanting to be part of the en vogue clique or get that popular kid from the right group to represent them

    That’s one perspective, sure.

    Another perspective is all press is good press 🤷‍♀️

    Yet another perspective is that our cause is sufficiently viable enough to be targeted for the propaganda you describe 😉

    Learn a lesson already.

    Respectfully, the only lesson is buy, hodl, and DRS 💎🤙

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      11 months ago

      I completely respect your opinions and others’ even if they differ from mine.

      However, I don’t subscribe to that logic (edit: the any attention being good bit). Look where an ever increasing amount of corporate press, full of lies and gaslighting and corruption and propaganda has gotten us.

      Add small voices like ours to the conversation to persuade and counter. Or maybe get some of the new, dissident, alternative press to chip in if you have vetted and trust them. But trust is the key components here. I trust those I know personally, not faces on my screen or voices in my ear.

      I’ve watches Stewart his whole career and think he’s a snake, and one of “them’”. Controlled opposition as I said. I think those types pay lips service to tamp down movements so those in the movement think, “oh, look, someone important and popular is on our side and coming to save us. Maybe even a congress critter! Guess I’ll just wait for them to do the heavy lifting with the DC and corpo connected big boys”. Back to providing for your family and trying to enjoy life and such, which is good, but for those snakes. OR fall back into your regularly scheduled complacency.

      Look at Occupy Wall Street, or any other large social movement. The Jon Stewarts of those events did fuck all to change the system.

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        11 months ago

        Hey thanks, it’s good to constructively disagree 🍻

        That said, I’m not disagreeing with your underlying premise, only your conclusion of what it must mean.

        It can both be true that he is controlled opposition and he legitimizes the movement with that opposition 💎✌️

        See you on the moon

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            11 months ago

            Yours is pretty great too! Brings me joy. Also love seeing crossover from an instance which is pro-monero. Just subbed to the main community over there.

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              11 months ago

              Thanks, friend! Peacefully opt out of the system by beating them at their own games and flipping the script. There is a lot of overlap in small groups working to negate the corrupted power structures without having to “fight’” them in the ways they are used to and more well equipped for.

              Someone recently framed it to me as assymetric combat and all that, although I usually don’t like to personally frame it as a fight or warfare or battle because I think we can do this passively without the need for violence.

              These massive lumbering beasts have mortally wounded themselves through their own corruption, hubris and stupidity. I say just let them die.

              Among many others I read and listen to, Peruvian Bull from your neck of the woods has some compelling insight on this I believe.

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                11 months ago

                Well said, agreed with you completely. We have the tools in myriad ways to circumvent or destabilize the power structures which run rampant today. PB is a good thinker, and tries to keep even handed with his market commentary without focusing on any one asset (except academically) which I appreciate.

                Looking forward to more similar cross contamination between our groups.

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                  11 months ago

                  Me too. If you love privacy, decentralization, and the idea of true censorship resistant digital cash, you’ll love Monero!

                  Unless you’re already into it, in which case you already know it’s the hotness.

                  If you read the Bitcoin whitepaper, and what Satoshi and the other cypherpunks at the dawn of all that, then you’ll realize XMR is fulfilling those promises infinitely better than BTC does. I still like BTC, so not shitting in it, but outside of adoption and network effect (so thus security with more eyes on the project and more miners securing the network), I find Monero to be superior in every way as an actual currency and not some type of “digital gold” as BTC has been perverted into over the years in contravention of its stated purpose post 2008 financial crisis.

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                    11 months ago

                    Oh yeah - already there on all of that. Been turned off from BTC since the 2017 hardfork. I continue to believe an effective, cheap, and transparent settlement layer is a must if we ever are to separate money and state.

                    To speak more to commonality, I feel BCH XMR and GME have all undergone similar sidelining from establishment thought and media.

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          11 months ago

          Love that perspective, my friend. And I genuinely hope you’re right. Just as I hope I’m wrong on the motivations of some actors. I just need to see sustained proof, action and results to earn my trust or give any benefit of the doubt at this point.

          Hopefully I’ll meet ya to toast a Romulan Ale out amongst the stars in some far off galaxy sooner than later 🖖