I have a set of 3 Bra Premiere non-stick frying pans that I’ve used for a while. The coating on them says “Teflon Innovations without PFOA”. Recently I’ve noticed that on the most used pan, the 26cm one, the Teflon coating has started to peel off.

I know that Teflon coatings can release harmful fumes and chemicals if overheated, but what about if the coating is physically peeling? Is it still safe to cook with them? Or should I stop using especially the 26cm one? I don’t want to keep exposing my family to anything dangerous unknowingly. Any advice if these types of pans are still safe to cook with if the nonstick surface is peeling would be appreciated!

  • Chozo@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    There’s a couple misconceptions in this thread.

    Yes, Teflon can release some gasses if overheated, but it’s not likely going to cause you any real harm. As long as you’re turning on the range hood while you cook, it’s basically a non-issue. Teflon really only releases fumes at very high temperatures (usually over 500F), and foods that are being cooked at that high heat aren’t really going to be needing a non-stick coating to begin with, so you’d ideally want to use a different type of pan for foods cooked at very high heat in the first place.

    If you really huff the fumes intentionally, you might give yourself a headache/fever (look up “Teflon flu” for more), but it’s not likely gonna kill you. However, some pets may be more susceptible to Teflon fumes, particularly birds, who can very easily die from Teflon fumes, so be cautious if you have any animals in your home.

    As for the aluminum underneath, that’s also largely a non-issue. Aluminum is safe to cook with in most applications. It’s even relatively safe to consume, and it’s actually used in many common medicines (like aspirin and antacids) and also as a food additive in some cases. There’s a reason why acidic foods like tomatoes and pineapples are canned in aluminum; because it’s safe to do so. If a little aluminum from the can/pan leeches out into the food, it’s not a big deal as it’ll pass through you unnoticed. It’s only really a concern if you already have issues with high amounts of metal consumption in your diet. Some people believe that aluminum can cause or accelerate certain conditions like Alzheimer’s, however I believe those studies have been mostly inconclusive, last time I looked into it.

    The bigger issue is that you risk getting chunks of the Teflon coating breaking off of the pan and getting into your food. While it’ll pass through you mostly harmlessly, it’s still not ideal. And it’s just gross.

    I’d recommend tossing that pan and getting a new one and only using it for low/medium-high temps, as well as picking up a stainless steel pan (assuming you don’t have any metal allergies), and use that for things that need more heat to cook.

    Also, be gentler with your pans, in general. It looks like you’ve been sticking a fork or some other metal utensil in there, which is a bad idea. If you’re using a metal spatula or something, stop that; just use plastic/rubber/wood on your non-stick items. If you’re hand-washing it, just use a sponge or a soft brush, but don’t use anything abrasive like steel wool or those sponges with the “hard” side for grease and grime, as those can also rapidly degrade the Teflon coating.

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        8 months ago

        So I’ve just read that paper and it’s very interesting. The vast bulk of it is about the danger of polymer processing aid used during the manufacturer of teflon and how they could leach during manufacture, use and product disposal.

        The manufacture and disposal phases encompass environment pollution - important, but not relevant to safety during cooking.

        The in-use section of the paper is largely about concentrations used in cosmetics (who knew?) and the potential affects.

        What about cooking? There is one line that I could find in the paper - I may have missed something, of course. It says this:

        “Fluoropolymer-coated food contact materials (e.g., metal cookware), if not properly pretreated, could lead to the leaching of nonpolymeric PFAS residuals into food during the use phase.”

        So - if not properly pretreated (I don’t think the paper expands on what this means), it could lead to leaching. But the paper has nothing to say about whether this leaching occurs with everyday cookware and if so, if it happens at concentrations that could be harmful.

        So I’m going to suggest that this paper does not present any evidence that non-stick pans are harmful to health during cooking.

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    8 months ago

    I stopped using non stick pots/pans completely. PFOS or whatever other fucked up, deadly, untested chemicals can get out of my life forever. We may think they’re safe but do we really know? “They” told us the original teflon was safe and look at how that turned out.

    I now have an induction range and only use cast iron and stainless steel. Yes, I sometimes have to scrub or soak my pans but I believe me and mine will live longer and healthier.

    Cast iron does make better tasting food, IMHO. Takes some getting used to and more work to clean but I think it’s worth it.

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          Its specifically when applying emphasis, usually with ((())), but not always. Using the word they on its own is not an issue, but in cases like this its usually better to say who you mean, instead of letting people assume.

          • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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            Or we can not give quite so much power to single word dog whistles, particularly in cases when there’s no actual anti-Semitic content within the post. It’s like the fuckin OK sign all over.

            I think it’s better to take in the whole context, and then you don’t have to assume anything.