I’m shopping for a VPN providers, and really struggling to find a detailed and non-biased breakdown of the various options. A number of years ago, I recall finding an extremely detailed VPN comparison spreadsheet that had 30+ columns, which were contained criteria by which the VPNs were judged both quantitatively and qualitatively. I can no longer find that table, so I suspect it has been removed, but I did find the less-comprehensive table, below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ijfqfLrJWLUVBfJZ_YalVpstWsjw-JGzkvMd6u2jqEk/edit?usp=sharing
In the thread posted by the owner of this sheet, a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading. I too am suspicious that this table can’t be trusted, however I really am not knowledgeable about VPNs, so before passing judgement, I figured I should consult those who know more about it. I also recognize that a strong marketing team and an excellent product aren’t mutually exclusive, however I think that generally applies more in markets where economies of scale play a significant role, as does mass-adoption, which fuels loads of well-informed, independent research (ex: the car market and phone market.) That obviously isn’t the case with the VPN markets… but I’m still sorta holding out hope.
If I end up excluding this table, I’m not sure where to turn at that point. Shilling is extremely pervasive in the VPN market, so it’s tough to trust any one person or any one thread. It’s also well established that a few of the large VPNs actually own a number of review blogs, so I can’t really trust blogs either.
I guess I’m here hoping to be told that my suspicions about this table are unfounded, and / or that another excellent, unbiased resource for comparative VPN info exists. Any help would be appreciated!
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a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading
Exactly. This is unfortunately common practice, so this breakdown can be dismissed as they’re obviously biased due to monetary motivations.
Consider to read Privacy Guides’ take on the matter instead.
(Perhaps personal) TL;DR would be that Mullvad VPN in combination with Mullvad Browser offers the most private internet browsing experience for people who don’t desire to connect to the Tor Network. Furthermore, Proton offers a suite of privacy-friendly services for mail, drive, password manager etc. Therefore, for the sake of trusting the least amount of parties for these services (at the cost of putting all eggs in one basket), one might consider Proton VPN instead; additionally it includes a free tier and some support to port forwarding (read: allows the use of torrent applications).
I host my own on a vps where I pay $15 per year
So what if the vps hands your data to the feds and the feds are like hey, why was your vps torrenting Paul blart mall cop 2?
What do you say to that?
That’s my only concern with hosting my own vps.
NGL doing something like that is WAY above my pay grade anyway, but I still am interested in the answer to this question, because I’ve seen the advice to take the ‘self-operated’ approach before.
It’s not too difficult to setup, but I think people don’t realize that even if your not breaking the law, you may still have to deal with charges and going to court for years before your found innocent. All while dealing with the stress of a jury possibly finding you guilty.
Then you have prosecutors offering plea deals, so then you think do I stand my ground and risk X years in jail? Or do I plead guilty and just go to jail for 2 years?
you think they cant issue a warrant against any VPN hosts?
Sure they could, but you are a a bit more anonymous and don’t keeps logs, then there may be nothing to hand over.
Hosting your own vps directly ties internet traffic to you. They can see your ip is part of a swarm and see who owns it. If it’s owned by some guy, they can press you. If it’s owned by a company with a legal team, it’s much more difficult.
I wish there were some descriptions per provider with the ratings. Mullvad gets constant tests by third party against their network and has proven many times they have a no log policy that’s working, yet they got a 4 out of 5…
With only numbers and generic descriptions that don’t quite match the truth, feels like this sheet is a little misleading. Also, I find it ironic that it’s on Google sheets.
Is that July 20th, 2019, or July 19th, 2020? Regardless, I’m under the impression that the VPN world (or really the tech world in general) evolves waaay too quickly to rely on information that’s either 3 or 4 years old. Also, as I’m typing this, I also think I saw info that That One Privacy was acquired by a company that sells multiple VPN services, a few of which are included in that sheet if I’m remembering correctly.
EDIT: Confirmed.
I have been using NprdVPN for 5 years. Speed is pretty good, and their zero-log policy have been proved by 3th party. They also use RAM only servers which is better.
It may be a bit expensive though.
I do like that thirth party reassurance
NordVPN undertook three independent audits to prove their no-logs policy. You can check that with a quick search online.
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I am not sure about that particular leak and the kind of data that was leaked, but I am pretty confident about their zerolog policy as today. NordVPN has undertaken not one, but three independent audits, which is more than other known VPNs.
Many websites confirm their clams, like those ones:
https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/nordvpn-no-logs-policy/ https://www.tomsguide.com/features/nordvpn-logs-is-nordvpn-secure-does-it-keep-logs-and-can-you-trust-it https://www.tomsguide.com/news/independent-audit-confirms-nordvpns-no-log-policy-for-the-second-time
But in the end it is up to you if trust it or not. For me it is pretty good.
It does seem a bit sporadic. Surfshark seems to be on top above other providers like Mullvad and ProtonVPN. It might have a bit to do with how it weights various criteria.
What VPN is best for you really depends on what you value. A bunch of people left Mullvad for example because they no longer offer port forwarding which can complicate things like bit torrenting for example.
I use PIA, it was recommended to me by a cybersec friend of mine. It’s dirt cheap as well. $79usd for like 3 years I think?
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Thanks, that is very helpful. For the record though, which PrivacyGuides are you saying I should avoid? Is it the site this comment mentions? https://lemmy.ml/comment/5985755
I also see that the person who replied to your comment linked a didn’t Privacy Guides site.
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