America doesn’t have any culture
Genuinely one of the most moronic takes I have ever seen someone false bravado themselves into having the balls to assert and expect to be taken seriously.
Probably also racist but hey we’re so far in the direction of idiocy at this point that size in any other dimension is all a relative zero anyways.
can you describe American culture?
Yeah: Traditional music includes jazz, rock and roll, blues, and country. Traditional foods include casseroles inspired by traditional European cuisine such as lasagna and macaroni and cheese, as well as dishes such as chili, hamburgers, Hot Dogs, and French fries. The culture places a high value on individual freedoms, though it tends to prioritize business over it. A strong work culture is prevalent.
I can continue. We have a lot of smaller cultures and changes over time due to our high value placed on immigration and young age, but we do have a culture and it’s one of our most valuable assets. You likely consume out media far more than any other foreign country’s. We’ve just managed to export our culture so well many see it as the background default.
Or their culture all together.
Highly adaptive, very rooted in immigrant culture and subsequent mixes of immigrant cultures in oncoming waves.
Fierce value in independence and pursuit of one’s own life goals.
High interest in mixing and remixing ideas present from one’s own cultural and heritage background with one’s own present environment.
Jazz, Rock’n Roll and Pop
Diner fare and road trip culture
High degree of respect for people’s religious traditions, at least more than in Europe where they can sometimes just be outlawed over misguided notions of secularism
Emergent multilingualism
Idealization of perceived new ideas and ways of doing things, even among self proclaimed traditionalists
Culinary culture that blends immigrant culinary arts and techniques with a wide range of new bountiful ingredients from a strong farmer’s culture
Few places identify more with pets and farm animals more than America, especially horses dogs and cats.
Idealization of defending one’s self and one’s own property, even to the point where it’s actually proven to be unwise and statistically more dangerous than not.
Paul Bunyun, John Henry, The Headless Horseman, Texas Red and the Ranger with the Big Iron on his Hip, Johny Appleseed, Sybil Ludington, Annie Oakley, Bloody Mary, Krampus
Entire dialects of languages that exist only because of how they’ve developed within America among diaspora communities
Fusion cuisine
Mech head culture, cowboy culture, computer head and Internet culture
Anti-Zionist Judaism is prominently rooted in Judaism within America.
Free trade and trade based diplomacy as we understand it now
JJ McCullough is basically an entire YouTube channel that specializes in understanding the roots of “Americana” and in extension what he calls “North American” culture, that is to say US, Canadian, Mexican, Central American, and Caribbean culture.
High degree of respect for people’s religious traditions, at least more than in Europe where they can sometimes just be outlawed over misguided notions of secularism
And this is under a post about someone killing themselves because their religion says gay people are bad.
Was talking more about the Burqa Bans
I know this isn’t what you asked, but it sounds like you’re trying to make a point that the US has no culture, so I just wanted to say that culture is comprised of literally everything people do, including language, music, food, clothing, hair styles, religion, books, movies, traditions, holidays, jobs, education, and much more. Every human on earth is part of a culture that can be described in detail, but it would be nearly impossible to describe the culture of “America” given how diverse it is
Sounds like exaggeration and I might get stuck on “that’s not the point” part of the message here; I believe America has things like Christmas, Thanksgiving and cultural events that origin from America’s history as cultural aspects.
Every group of people has their culture.
America turned Christmas into a consumer holiday. Coca-Cola was what made Santa wear red across the world.
Even your cultural events have become excuses to buy shit.
That’s not true, Santa was depicted that way long before the Coca Cola ad.
No Santa was many colours, Coke is what made him only red today.
That’s a myth. Santa Claus has been gradually developed over time, and was established as close to his current visual appearance before the Coca Cola ad campaign.
Thanks for confirming my point
One might therefore fairly grant Coca-Cola some credit for cementing the modern image of Santa Claus in the public consciousness, as in an era before the advent of television, before color motion pictures became common, and before the widespread use of color in newspapers, Coca-Cola’s magazine advertisements, billboards, and point-of-sale store displays were for many Americans their primary exposure to the modern Santa Claus image. But at best what Coca-Cola popularized was an image they borrowed, not one they created.
Quoting the only part of the page that agrees with you and ignoring the rest is pretty lame. The article repeats several times throughout, literally like once every other paragraph, that Coca Cola had no hand in creating the image. They did not, as you claim, “make him only red today”-- that image of Santa Claus was standardized before they used him in their advertisements. What Coca-Cola did do is help spread the existing standard image of Santa Claus, and if that’s all you’re arguing, then I agree, although I believe it was likely to happen regardless.
For anyone reading this comment thread, the relevant counterpoint from the snopes article is this:
It is true that, since Santa Claus is an evolutionary figure, he did not suddenly appear fully-formed one day and immediately supplant every other character traditionally associated with Christmas. However, it is not true in any realistic sense that Coca-Cola “created” the modern Santa Claus: they did not invent the now-familiar rotund, bearded fellow clothed in red-and-white garb, nor did they pluck him from a pantheon of competing, visually different Christmastime figures and elevate him to the supreme symbol of Christmas gift-giving. The red-and-white Santa figure existed long before Coca-Cola began featuring him in print advertisements, and he had already supplanted a bevy of competitors to become the standard representation of Santa Claus before he began his tenure as a pitchman for Coke.
Coca-Cola was what made Santa wear red across the world.
Was my point and my quote backs that up.
Oof. But I argue that you can enjoy those events consumer-free as well 🙂
EDIT: Oh well, not totally free, but you can lower it a lot.
Sure, christmas could be celebrated without consumerism, but is it? This is an observation about the reality of society, “it could be different” misses the point.
The common societal structure is one thing. But on the individual level - it’s up to you how you want to live, and how much you want to consume.
You could try I guess. But if you have kids then good luck with that
More people means more resources needed.
But you can teach offspring to consume less 😉
Sounds a bit counter-cultural
Are you saying that consumerism is the thing that mostly define culture?
No, but the cultural way to celebrate has a lot of consumerism to the point that not having any consumerism seems counter cultural to me. Counter to an aspect of it, at least.
Gift-giving is not inherently consumerist. It’s true that many families buy gifts, but it’s not entirely uncommon for the most cherished gifts to be handmade.
Also, a non-insignificant portion of the population values other aspects of Christmas over the gifts, primarily the family gathering itself.
Maybe we can come up with (new) cultural aspects that are involved with low consumerism?
You can drink non-alcoholic beer, too, but WTF.
We all have our comfort zones.
It is up to you how you wanna live, what will be your attitude and your view of the world.I’m not telling you to stop consuming…or drinking beer. Of course doing those things less is generally good, bu who am I to stop you from fully living your life?
What did George Takei say?
That the dude was closeted, and that is a hard place to exist, and that it would be nice to not be in a world where any closet is necessary at all. That’s paraphrased, you can find him on mastodon easy enough.
I don’t know if Takei meant that he thought the guy was gay, trans, queer, etc. or if he was just drawing a comparison between being in a kink closet and those closets.
In other words, Takei was showing compassion and the response that’s shown in this post was shitting on him for it. Kinda ironic tbh.
And it isn’t like Mr Takei doesn’t regularly skewer right wing public figures. That’s most of his posts. But he also tends to want everyone to have things better, just without harming others.
Makes sense. He understands what it’s like to be a public figure in the closet. He seems to be primarily driven by caring about his fellow human beings. And he definitely knows in a very painful way where hate and persecution of others leads.
There’s a time to hate on right wing people. It’s when they hurt people. The victim here wasn’t preaching hate, they ran for mayor of a town in Alabama as a Republican and seemed more concerned with local politics than culture war stuff. It’s not good that they’re a Republican, but when other Republicans drive someone like that to suicide over something that shouldn’t even be a scandal I’m far too busy being angry at those ones to be mad or smug about theoreticals I imagine
Help, I eye rolled too hard seeing “social issues are axshaully capitalism, OK, sweaty” take #749 today, someone please suggest what payer health plan can help me, ty <3
Do you think the opposite of capitalism is… single payer healthcare?
Just heard about this poor guy. Capitalism wasn’t the reason this guy let himself out, it was shame from the article that outed him. Says it right in the news articles.
My heart goes out to Mr Copeland and his family. From the news accounts, it didn’t seem he himself was anti-LGBTQ, apart from his membership in a party that often is. He didn’t deserve that.
the Republican that committed suicide when outed as crossdresser.
He did what when what?!
America has some of the most fun, interesting, intermingled culture you’ll see. That’s not to say bad things don’t happen,or that you shouldn’t try to fix those things—but there will always be something that you can choose to live your life by as an excuse to be hateful. If you’re obsessed with always being mad about something, you’ll always be mad about something, and if you’re obsessed with looking at all the negatives and ignoring the positives you’ll never be happy
Yo, George, guy was a pervy POS. STFU on this one.
Pervy Point Of Sale? TIL.
Unfortunately, on this platform you won’t find many expressing that same sentiment, strictly because the man was LGBTQ. Forget the fact that he helped push bullshit Republican values, but since he’s part of that group, he is special.
The fuck does cross dressing have to do with lgbt+?
You do know that it isn’t the same thing, right?
Transvestism is, loosely speaking, a fetish. While queer culture has always been fairly friendly towards cross dressers (which are not the same as drag queens, no matter what idiots tell you), it is not the same thing.
Now, while it is also true that not every cross dresser has a true fetish, most do. And that’s the key difference. They aren’t presenting a gender to reflect their inner self. And I’ve never, ever met a single cross dresser that didn’t have at least a little kink involved in it. It might not always rise to being necessary for sexual satisfaction, but that’s still miles away from a sexual orientation.
It’s a fairly big part of queer culture. You know, the Q part you left out on purpose.
Thanks for proving my point for me.
The Q is implicit when you write LGBT+, as the plus denotes that there is more that isn’t added for the sake of brevity.
Additionally, crossdressing is not part of being Queer, any more than being into BDSM or latex is. The intent behind crossdressing and being a drag queen is completely different than being androgynous, or bigender and expressing yourself as such.
Crossdressing is and has always been part of queer identity. What are u talking about?
The fuck are you talking about now? I
