TLDR: XFCE and Cinnamon devs are begging beginning to work on Wayland support.

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    11 months ago

    Wayland is everywhere. The most successful consumer Linux computer (the Steam Deck) runs Wayland almost exclusively.

    Most distros default to Wayland unless you use Nvidia hardware, and even on Nvidia distros are starting to switch to Wayland.

    Tizen, the Linux OS Samsung once set up as an Android alternative, runs Wayland. That’s tons of smart TVs and fridges. My watch runs Wayland as well, though Samsung moved away from Tizen in newer wearables.

    Existing installs won’t automatically migrate. Moving to Wayland comfortably also involves running Pipewire for video sharing and such, which doesn’t need to replace Pulse but is often configured to do so. You can’t easily port your Pulse config to Pipewire and you can’t port your X11 config to Wayland, so if you installed Linux a few years back, you won’t notice how much the landscape has changed.

    Personally, I’ll wait until Nvidia gets their shit together, or more realistically, until I get new hardware, because I still encounter instability on Wayland. Even Nvidia is making progress oj Wayland, though.

    • merthyr1831@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 months ago

      Steamdeck’s KDE desktop doesn’t run Wayland, it’s still X11. That being said, Valve has said they want to move to Wayland at some point.

      Not sure about their gamescope mode. I know it’s a custom compositor but beyond that I’ve got no idea what the underlying tech powers it.

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        11 months ago

        Gamescope is a Wayland compositor. You can find the source code here. Others have actually made forks that work on regular Linux for automatic FSR and such to improve gaming on normal Linux desktops.

        I know KDE mode still runs X11 for now (though I’m not 100% sure why), but I don’t think most Deck customers spend all that much time in desktop mode. I certainly don’t, desktop mode on such a small screen just isn’t very practical, especially at such a low resolution and lacking the automatic touch keyboard feature you find on smartphones, tablets, and in Windows.

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          11 months ago

          Ahhhh right, yeah not sure why they don’t use wayland on desktop though. I can imagine they will in a year or so