As the Windows 10 EOL date is close I was wondering what fellow Linux users thoughts about it are.

Are you helping open minded people making the switch to Linux? If yes, which distro are you using? Are you using resources like endof10.org?

Or are you using the the opportunity to get your hands on some cheap hardware for your homelab? Are you keeping an eye on special websites or just ebay (or your local equivalent)? Are you talking with local companies to get the hardware directly from them?

Or are you just observing and enjoy your peace of mind because you switched already to Linux before?

Whatever it is, we are very interested to hear your stories concering this interesting time.

  • SpaciousCoder78@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Most folks I know don’t know the existence of security updates or Windows 10’s EOL so they just keep using it. Even if I told them about the EOL their pcs wouldn’t run Windows 11 nor they’re interested in Linux

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    I had already dabbled in Linux on and off years back. I already wanted to switch, but I’m a moron at computer stuff, so Linux was always a bit out of reach. Too much to learn and memorize for the basic things I needed it for. (addendum: We’re talking about 25 years ago)

    But Win 10 annoyed the piss out of me. Like, to the point of breaking my laptop in a fit of explosive anger. I’m not usually a “throw-the-controller” kind of guy. But that shit got to me.

    So around the time Win 11 was first announced, I decided to give Linux yet another shot. And lo and behold, I found Mint. Everything was setup and streamlined exactly for a moron like myself. It was literally easier and more straight forward than Windows.

    And with a little bit of reading and copy/pasting commands smarter people than myself have written around the internet, pretty much any problem I’ve encountered have been solved within a few minutes.

    So I recommend Mint to anyone looking for alternatives to Win 11.

    It has been good to me.

    And a big Thank You to all the glorious nerds that take the time to not on only make this, but also take the time to help us hapless dummies fix the small problems we encounter in the process of switching.

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    I hosted an endof10.org event at my local public library. Advertised like crazy, posting flyers around town, posting online, etc. I had over 30 USB installers ready to go with Debian 13. I was worried that I was advertising too much and wouldn’t have room for everyone.

    Only 2 people showed up, and neither were prepared to go through with an install. In a town with well over 70k people and a major university, I expected more.

    Now I’m thinking an event like this would only be viable in a major metropolitan area.

    In my circle of friends and family, I only knew of one person who was faced with the Windows 10 dilemma, and he chose to purchase new hardware (granted he’s nearly 80 years old).

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      Yeah nobody in real life really cares about this. Anyone techie enough has already replaced their system and runs Win11, or has already switched to Linux themselves.

      Anyone not techie enough doesn’t care and will continue using Win10 (or just follow the Windows nagging and buy a new PC from Best Buy).

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        Debian is a stable operating system and as user friendly as mint once you get past the installation.

        Mint also uses a Ubuntu base but Debian has better quality of packages and is less likely to break.

        LMDE is also a good option in this case

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          Yeah Debian is stable, but it also doesn’t come with an easy to use app store or pre-installed codecs for multimedia.

          The installation process isn’t exactly user friendly either. And if you plan to use BTRFS with Timeshift for easy snapshot creation, you have to do some pretty technical stuff.

          And finally, there’s stable and stable. Linux Mint being Ubuntu based is already VERY stable, but you still get fairly recent packages. With Debian you have to wait much longer for the latest software.

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            Wdym not user friendly? I use Debian everyday and the stuff you were talking about dates back to the bullseye days.

            Trixie is a lot more user friendly and even includes the calamares installer now which is a GUI installer that’s similar to mint’s one

            It also comes with gnome software and you can enable flatpaks with 2 commands. I don’t see how that’s not user friendly in any way.

            Of course nonfree software is a different case but you can always use snap or flatpak for it

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              29 days ago

              I installed it recently in a VM to check the latest release and the instalation process is not as user friendly as Mint.

              For everything else though I guess you’re right. But Mint has more quality of life stuff.

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    Linux is my only real love, but as much as I love it I am not ready for Arch. Therefore my estrogen after a month long trial sits on my shelf. Currently on Mint and confused as fuck. Any idea where I can get SERMs?

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    Linux on all of my main machines, so I’m grabbing the popcorn. Got LTSC for all the remaining Windows use cases: VMs, beater laptop for Windows-only stuff, and a couple of computers from family.

    Most of my friends replace their computers quite frequently, so they’re living blissfully unaware on Windows 11 or MacOS. The ones who do have older laptops tend to be tech-savvy enough to have figured out LTSC or Linux themselves. On one occasion, a good friend of mine had an old iMac that wasn’t getting updates anymore, so I installed Debian and themed XFCE to look like MacOS, taught them the basics, and they were impressed with the result.

    As for family, they’re usually very happy with the Linux Mint Debian Edition that I install for them, but some I know just won’t use the computer if it doesn’t have their familiar Windows-specific software, so I get them started with LTSC.

    I frankly have an excess of unused hardware that’s piling up, which won’t be helped by my access to a good source of e-waste. Old computers have already been trickling in, but I’m excited to see what’s next now that the Oct 14 date has come.

  • Matt@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    I use Fedora on my laptop since the day I bought it. It came with Win11 preinstalled.

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    Encouraged one of my friends to install Mint and upgraded my Lenovo Yoga to MX. Both of us are happy.

  • Richie’s Computer Stuff@lemmy.ca
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    I’ve been using Linux and macOS since 2020. I shifted my main PC from Windows 10 back in April of 2020 right as lockdowns were hitting my locale, when I discovered how much Linux gaming had improved. I was curious to see if I could make it work for myself.

    At that time, I had been interested in using Linux more frequently than on random old computers that I had lying around, but my opinions on Microsoft’s and Windows’ “quirks” were… less advanced. At that time I was unconcerned about Windows telemetry and advertising, but it also wasn’t as bad then.

    It took me about a week to get everything set up and ready to go and to get settled. At first, I didn’t know if it’d end up sticking. Well, it did. I started with Ubuntu, and quickly went after Pop!_OS. I used that for a while, and eventually shifted to Garuda where I still am today.

    Windows 10 end of life has almost no impact on me. My mindset has shifted dramatically since I first started using Linux on my main PC. When I used to not be bothered by Windows’ telemetry I find myself strongly off-put by it. Even macOS, which some say isn’t as bad as Windows puts me off and I’d rather not use it. Having had to set up Windows 10 for someone about a year back, I saw how much worse it got. It was insufferable.

    Right now, my brother and sister in law still use Windows 10. They don’t see the problem with that. My brother specifically says he’ll just keep using Windows 10, because he “doesn’t have anything important” on it (I mentioned his Steam account has linked payment info). He’s also told me that he’d rather use Windows 11 (which he hates) than give Linux a try, a stance I don’t understand. It’s clear he doesn’t really understand the situation, and he doesn’t realize that Linux is not necessarily the difficult and unfriendly OS he thinks it is.

    I’d rather him use Windows 11 than Windows 10, despite how awful I know it to be. At least there’s somewhat lower risk of nasty compromise there. I also know that he does play at least a couple games with anti-cheat that explicitly block Linux, so that introduces some complexity. But, I’m done preaching. I know how it makes me look, and I’ve tried in the past to change his mind but he’s unwilling to do so, so at this point the only way he’s going to learn is for something really bad to happen. Maybe his computer gets hit by ransomeware that took advantage of an unpatched vulnerability. That might be what it takes to finally make him do something.

    I hate that it’s like this. I’ve tried to tell him about the risks. He doesn’t understand the full scale of it, and he dismisses me when I try to explain it to him. But at this point, what can I do besides say “I warned you” when something goes wrong?

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    My windows 10 EOL story is boring, I have been running Desktop Linux for 20 years and it just works

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    Or are you just observing and enjoy your peace of mind because you switched already to Linux before?

    Yes, that. As far as my circle of friends and acquaintances who are running Win10 are concerned, I’ve made the effort to advise them to switch to something newer for security reasons. They will probably switch to Windows 11, but that is their concern.

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    Macbook/Linux user here: People (And organisations/governments) who are reasonably skilled with technology will understand that on hardware which can’t use windows 11, and is stuck with windows 10 without security updates need an alternative operating system. When institutions switch to linux, they will likely contribute to the opensource project, and overall bring the user base numbers up, which will make more software developers add support for linux.

    But while this should happen, it might work in microsoft’s favour, (Like when Netflix stopped password sharing) meaning people, who are used to windows will just buy new windows 11 machines, overall increasing microsoft’s company value. Microsoft also supports the Israel military during the genocide, and Bill Gates personally supports Trump and had close ties with Epstein, so it would be best if the general public does an accident, or purposeful boycott. Personally I buy secondhand stuff and put linux on it, if you want new stuff either buy a mac, or buy one of those new linux machines from Lenovo?

  • Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world
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    Switched to Mint over a year ago from win 10 on my desktop and my wives laptop, we both love it. It was fresh, user friendly and familiar in the same time. To be fair we are pretty much average users without any specialized needs, other than gaming.

    Later this year I built a new gaming pc 100% with Linux in mind. I am running Bazzite on it and it works absolutely amazing. Bazzite is currently my favourite distro. Im not a distro hopper or a big tinkerer myself, don’t have time for experimenting, so not planning to switch. It just works perfectly.

  • normalexit@lemmy.world
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    I used windows 10 on my gaming PC for many years. I “upgraded” to 11, and it felt bad. The UI/ux was tolerable, but between the AI features and everything requiring a Microsoft account, it got on my nerves quickly.

    I literally just wanted to upgrade the firmware on my Xbox one controller (so it’d work in Linux…) and that forced a login. At that point I logged in, upgraded my controller, formatted as ext4, and now I rarely look back.

    Every once in a while a game will crash or not be playable on Linux, but I’d trade that for being in control of the hardware I’ve spent thousands on over the years.

    Very happy with bazzite on my htpc and a kde based distro on my main computer. I pop over to my MacBook for casual computing, but for the real stuff I’ll never use windows again (barring being forced by future employers)

  • mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz
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    installed fedora cinnamon on my grandparent’s laptop a few days ago and got a friend turned from 10 to mint. been using mint on my gaming rig, server and media PCs for over two years. also wife requested mint on her laptop, so no windblows devices left in the house then