• nnullzz@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Not many other ways to make 1.1 million people really angry, on top of all else. Not everyone there is a terrorist, but they all have to pay the price for the actions of those whose are.

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      Oh there’ll be a much larger number of terrorists after this.

      What would you do if your family was killed by a government claiming you’re inhuman just for existing and your neighbour deciding to launch a rocket at that government out of sheer frustration for their living conditions.

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        A much higher number of justifications for that government to crack down even further. First you demonize the enemy, then you strike against them, and when they inevitably defend themselves, you have a justification to kill the people trying to kill yours. That playbook is millenia old and still works.

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        9 months ago

        Palestine is not a regular place. It is a military base for terrorists. Downvote all you want, this is a fact you will need to understand.

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          9 months ago

          The Gaza strip has over 2 million people, half of which are under 18. That is a “fact you will need to understand” before you go around defending the atrocities Israel is and will commit.

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            9 months ago

            Israel is defending itself from future attacks like Saturday. It doesn’t matter what your feelings are about this the fact is Palestine is a terrorist military base, and Israel is about to liberate it.

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              Let me try to put this in a different perspective. First: Gaza has an average age of about 19 years old, and a bit more than half of the population is under 18. Second: there was a Reuters report and video yesterday about how the cemeteries are full so people are burying their loved ones in donated vacant lots with cinder blocks and bits of rubble as gravestones.

              To emphasize and clarify the point: half the population is children and they’ve run out of space for more graves.

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                9 months ago

                Hundreds of terrorists attacked innocent people, including babies on Saturday. You’re a coward for defending terrorists.

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                  9 months ago

                  I never said anything about defending Hamas. If there was a way to extract them and offer them up to the Hague without endangering innocent civilians, I’d be all for it. But we should put Netanyahu and his cabinet on trial as well. There can be more than one monster at a time

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              9 months ago

              Palestine is defending itself from future attacks like the last several decades. It doesn’t matter what your feelings are about this the fact is Israel is a terrorist military base, and Palestine is about to liberate it.

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                  9 months ago

                  You offer no truths except hollow words that echoed around your empty brain.

                  You know nothing about the truth of the situation, only what your propaganda has lied to you about, and you’re top stupid, ignorant, or paid to spread disinformation to consider another point of view.

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          If you believe that, then you have no concept of reality and just accept whatever fantasy is told to you to make you angry.

          I pity you.

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      9 months ago

      You know though. I can see this but there is also the bombing. I feel like both of these at the same time is a rock and hard place. If they just did the cutoff at least civilians might be able to refugee someplace.

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          Again, if there is a known safe haven, guerilla fighters will use it.

          So…

          Are you saying the IDF are idiots for thinking Hamas will stay in the north?

          Or are you saying it’s obvious bullshit that IDF will leave the South alone if the north actually does evacuate?

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    🇮🇱: “Evacuate 1.1 million people in 24 hours so that we can say we didn’t commit war crimes.”

    🇵🇸: “Are you going to donate buses, hospital supplies and temporary housing so that we can, you know, handle that?”

    🇮🇱: “Do I look like fucking Red Cross to you? This is a bomb threat.”

    🇵🇸: “Who’s the terrorist now?”

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    It’s totally okay to label Hamas as terrorists if they act like terrorists. But that doesn’t make all Palestinians terrorists. And it’s obviously not okay to order an entire ethnic population to just go somewhere else or to attack civilians.

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    Hammas local command is built in tunnels under an hospital in Gaza Strip. The options Israel have are: A. Don’t hurt Hammad to save Palestinians but suffer more attacks on Israelis. B. Kill every last hammas member, getting some Palestinians dead, but saving its own citizans.

    Shity options, one has to be made.

    On the grand scale of things, Hammad directly killed more Palestinians than Israel did. They murdered membera of FATAH for example. So if this war actually eliminate Hammas (spoiler: it won’t) than it will save the life of many Palestinians that don’t agree with Hammas.

    But wannabe leftists on the Interwebs from safe westarn countries want to be cute and defend Hammas cus they are supposdly the opersed party.

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        You reply like a retarded propoganda bot. The map you are refering to is misinformation, in 1946 Palestines owned less than 2% of the marked land. The rest was state owned, first by the othmans, then the Brits.

        Israel is commiting many war crimes, but genocide is not one of them. On the count of killing Palestinians Hammas is way ahead and killed much more than Israel did.

        And for your last paragraph, I already wrote, it will not eliminate Hammas.

        The reason Hammas attacked Israel has nothinng to do with the shit you said, it’s because Hammas is a religious group that want to kill all Jews world wide, and then put the shria law every where. They are not different from ISIS.

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    If Hamas cares about Gaza residents they will voluntarily hand themselves over.

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      What on Earth would lead you to think Hamas cares about Gaza residents? The whole point of Hamas’s attacks was to provoke this sort of Israeli reaction. The innocent Palestinians who are going to die in this attack are no more than disposable pawns and human shields to Hamas.