• LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s lousy being blocked by an entire section of the site and now labelled a bigot because some trolls made their accounts on the same instance as me.

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      Yeah, I’m sure it doesn’t feel great, but I didn’t get the sense that they were trying to personally attack everyone on the relevant servers, but more of a “we’re only four people, did not expect our instance to become a “default” community, and are completely underwater from a moderation perspective. We need to pull a rip cord to get this under control”

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        Wait did sh.itjust.works do anything? I thought the story was that beehaw.org cut them and lemmy.world off, but only for people browsing on beehaw.

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          No Beehaw did not like how Sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world are run, did a complant session about how their mod tools are not talored to give them an excise of power on users not based in their instance, and then cut them off saying “they are willing to negotiate reopening.” Personaly I see this like union bargoning, we are stronger all sticking together and not bending to beehaws wims

    • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Agreed, it sucks. But their admins are talking to our admins, and so far ours seem like they have their heads screwed on pretty well, so I’m sure it’ll only be for a short time.

      Oust the shitheads, promote the stand-up sh.it.heads, I say.

      • LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works
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        To be honest I had no idea that people from this instance were doing it until one troll post bragging about getting us banned from Beehaw and explained how he did it, along with a comic book supervillian diatribe about how the Fediverse isn’t safe and long live Reddit.

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            If we can’t say naughty words on lemmy I’ll have to find something else. Can’t there be a website with a middle ground between 4th reich HQ and baby preschool?

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              Can’t there be a website with a middle ground between 4th reich HQ and baby preschool?

              Sometimes it feels like the internet is in an unstable equilibrium. A space starts off as a blank slate, not pulled in any particular direction. Then as soon as it gets a critical mass of either miserable jerks or stuck-up prudes, it spirals in that direction until it’s inhospitable to the average person.

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    1 year ago

    The issue with this is beehaw is large enough that them defederating from other instances is potentially a serious threat to those instances. Social networks are inherently monopolistic because people follow the crowd, and federation is meant to counteract that tendency toward userbase consolidation. Moves like this could be interpreted as an attempt to become the dominant instance, defeating the purpose of the fediverse.

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      I am not 100% sure where you are going with this, however I am going to say I agree that the move by beehaw is a blatent move to exert control on other instances, and it was never in question, in my mind atleast that it was their goal from my reading of their first post. I however disagree that they pose a threat to the other istances, they pose a threat if instances give in, like it apears sh.itjust.works may have done given their new post. Beehaw, sense the begining has been going arround acting like they have quite a bit like they are the arbitor, and everyone else should join them. I for one think the other instances of Lemmy should band together and let Beehaw wall themselves off. I do not think they would sucseed in this goal, and they would either give up on their imperialistic conquest or they would die a death of isolation.

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        it is a threat if users jump ship to beehaw from the smaller instances beehaw has blocked. but when I wrote that comment I wasn’t aware that lemmy.world is now three times the size of beehaw, at least according to this tally https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances. that should counterbalance things.

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          I am not sure I have seen, in my time watching beehaw block first justify later, a mass transfer to beehaw before, but I uderstand the potential threat now.

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        hey, I have been here awhile, and while I am not 100% sure the exact issue that triggered this, what I can tell you is generaly the beehaw admin team has shown themselves not to be the most trust worthy team when it comes to lemmy instances, so I would take their story with a grain of salt