• CalipherJones@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    “I don’t think anyone needs any convincing that churches lie to and scam people on a daily basis for personal gain.”

    And yet televangelists exist. Megachurches exist. Churches have been scamming Christs sheep for millennia all for them to be none the wiser.

    • easily3667@lemmus.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I’m still somewhat confused about the distinction they are drawing, but it seems to be that yes we who are not morons can acknowledge scammers exist in a given field while not completely ignoring the value of that field.

      Where it gets dicey for me is that from my pov the vast majority of religious “leaders” and self help people are scammers, and most people who are doing actually good work in these areas are not exactly prominent. “Do good works” doesn’t make money. “Treat yourself well” doesn’t make money. Because these people work within capitalism, they require a constant revenue stream and the positive aspects of these areas don’t provide that revenue stream.