• can@sh.itjust.works
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    we know

    And they’re somehow surprised they’re not getting more donations.

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      That is what the genocide denier wants you to think. It obviously isn’t a semantics argument though.

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        I still wouldn’t base my entire opinion on someone over one discussion regarding whether something is or isn’t a genocide. I hope he doesn’t like diet coke or chew with his mouth open.

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        Reading this superficially, I suppose the crux of the matter is that it was the USA, not the UN, and then some of its close allies who named the events a “genocide”.

        After this the frontiers harden, nobody talks any more about the actual events, but about the terminology.

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          The UN can’t classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

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        UN is not calling it a genocide though? The entire report your link refers to does not mention genocide. It does make a clear point of massive discrimination etc though ä.

        • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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          The UN can’t classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

    • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      Because the developers are the faces of Lemmy. How can you expect the fediverse to grow when its creators are hateful people who deny genocides and even encourage it (regarding the Holodomor).

      • nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works
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        We aren’t reddit and all that matter is their github code contributions that allow us and you to shit on them freely for their stupid opinions. If there is ever a problem with their political views interfering with the projects then we can just fork it.

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        Do you have a source for them encouraging genocide? That’s a pretty serious accusation to just throw out without citation.

        • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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          Yes, you can check Dessaline’s github page on the holodomor, where his sources encouraged the holodomor.

    • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world
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      Exactly. I don’t care about their personal beliefs. I care about what their software will enable, the improvement of the fediverse and it’s uptake.

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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        Would you argue the same if they were a different breed of violent extremist? Say Neo-Nazi as an example (not that they are, merely an example)

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    I’ll never understand anybody who isn’t skeptical of what America tries to say about it’s enemies anymore. I don’t know if there’s a genocide happening in China. But most of the world except the United States seems to think there isn’t. And that’s a big fucking red flag to me.

    If there is one happening and people are being propagandized into denying it, I blame the United States whole heartedly for the embarrassing amount of disinformation they shit out on a daily basis about China.

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      Wait you blame the US for you denying the Uyghurs are being wiped, because checks notes they’re telling you about it ?

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      I’ll never understand this US-centric, bigoted dismissal of anyone and everyone through the lens of American exceptionalism.

      You are the problem you so loudly complain about.

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      And this most of the world is…?

      Because the United Nations most certainly recognises the genocide, as do many other independent human-rights organisations. oh and the leaked documents.