• icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Im seing a bunch of things about israel right now, im out of the loop on this. Can somebody fill me in on what (if anything) happened?

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      1 year ago

      Hamas launched a bunch of rockets from Gaza in a surprise attack on a holy day and then put ground fores in. This attack killed at least 100 Israeli civilians (Israel is also claiming near 1000 more injured) and has captured more.

      Israel is of course going to retaliate and try and destroy the sites (surrounded by civilians since Hamas is known to try and use sensitive civilian locations as shields) and probably occupy Gaza in an effort to keep these rocket attacks from happening. Which will cause more Palestinian casualties, thus the cycle continues.

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          1 year ago

          To be fair, they were very open about intentions to bomb Gazza from the first moment war was declared. PM called for civilians to evacuate to city.

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            PM called for civilians to evacuate to city.

            Yeah that is utter bullshit from him! He knows very well that the people have nowhere to go! The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated places on the planet. Israel controls the majority of the border and all of the sea. So those routes are closed. And you can bet your ass that Egypt won’t allow 2 million Refugees passing their small part of the border.

            Anyone who states that the civilians of the Gaza strip can just “leave the city” are either very uninformed or lying.

            I mean seriously, just open Google maps and look at it. The area is very thin, 5-12km from the border to the sea and pretty much all city. And you can also bet that Israel for certain won’t allow refugees to hide in the open area in front of the border.

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              Egypt won’t allow 2 million Refugees passing their small part of the border.

              Turkey hosts 10+ million, what’s stopping Egypt here? They also openly support Palestine afaik.

              Expecting Egypt to act is more realistic than expecting Israel to return fire.

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                Egypt and a lot of neighbouring countries talk a lot how they “support” Palestine but all of them really don’t come through.

                Egypt certainly doesn’t want them self to get into the same problem Lebanon is facing with just half a million Palestinian refugees.

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      Hamas launched a whole bunch of rockets at Israeli civilians and killed many. Israel declared war as a result. Situation still ongoing

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        1 year ago

        Dude, it’s a fucking ground invasion. They are murdering civilians in their homes and kidnapping Israeli citizens into the Gaza strip

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              An invasion is a military offensive of combatants of one geopolitical entity, usually in large numbers, entering territory controlled by another similar entity, generally with the objective of either: conquering; liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory; forcing the partition of a country; altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government; or a combination thereof.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion

              Neither can Hamas field large numbers, nor is Israel a similiar entity, as it is an established nation state with a well armed military, nor is the goal to conquer or establish authority over the areas attacked. The only criterium that is fullfilled is the “gaining concessions” part.

              And comparing this to the russian invasion of Ukraine is just silly. Or did i miss the videos of kilometre long convoys driving onto Jerusalem, and hundreds of aircrafts launching from Gaza? I’ve seen some videos of guys in a motorized paraglider. But you dont want to really consider that equal to a fighter jet or attack helicopter do you?

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            It’s still more monstrous that anything Isreal have done…, and boy oh boy they’ve done things.

            I’ve seen way too many photos and videos in the past day. I’ve seen a women got shot in her car from the outside. Her baby was executed on the back seat. Mind you, the religion they believe in absolutely prohibits this.

            I’ve seen the video of the Israeli soldiers lifeless bodies getting beaten and limbs getting cut off. I’ve seen soldier bodies getting loaded on to jeeps, pickups or even a guy carrying a body with a scooter.

            I saw the video of an Israeli woman taken hostage, with her crotch are having blood(?) stains.

            I’ve seen the pictures of women that were taken hostage and their relatives looking for them in Facebook. (Technically, Islam don’t prohibit female hostages to be used as sex slaves, but I might be wrong on that).

            I even saw the German girl they’ve murdered, strip and carry the body around with a pickup.

            On the other side, the worst thing Israelis did were to strip down and reverse hand cuffed bunch of Hamas people. Also numbering them with paint.

            Both sides are bad but holy fuck, seeing what Hamas have done in the course of a single day…, Isrealis look like they’re good guys (which they definitely aren’t, btw).

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              I looked for footage and i have seen none of these. Also saying the worst Israel did was handcuff some people is full of bullshit, when there is videos of them bombing hospitals and NGOs like MFS reporting their doctors killed. Oh and of course there is the constant killing of Palestinians over the years, like the murder of a journalist last year.

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                To correct myself, worst I’ve seen today would be a much better sentence.

                bombing hospitals

                Hamas did exactly the same this time, so they’re now the same shit in different colors.

                Oh and of course there is the constant killing of Palestinians over the years, like the murder of a journalist last year.

                This is true, but it’s still much more humane than stripping down a dead body and carry it around the world to see. One is shitty, other one is straight up barbaric.

                This video is a great example, even though it’s not the longest of specific scene you could find. Turns out she was a German citizen, a tattoo artist, only half Israeli. She was there to attend to a festival for the peace in Gazza.

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            Terrorist attacks. They attacked a rave with young people just there for music. The strength, size, and surprise of the attack is akin to a 9/11 or a pearl harbor for the Israeli.